Ukraine referendum

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  1. ToughTalk

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    NATO had nothing to do with Russia invading Ukraine.

    This was a land and resource grab. Nothing more.
     
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    More credible than the well paid stenographers on moron TV.
     
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  3. LangleyMan

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    Is your little buddy Putin going to start a nuclear war? He can't win a conventional war with NATO.
     
  4. LangleyMan

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    Russians have to get rid of Putin or end up unwelcome in most countries.
     
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    That's pretty much the case already.
     
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  6. Bill Carson

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    :above::above::above::above::above::above::above::above::above::above::above: :roflol:okay Russia Russia Russia, whatever you say that makes you feel better
     
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    Nato? You mean that so-called 'fighting' force full of gay, blue-haired multi-nationals? I shouldn't call out the gays....it's the ones that can't distinguish whether they have a pecker or not that is the real issue. Hell I'm shaking in my boots just thinking about those badasses.
     
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  8. UntilNextTime

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    You'll never learn will you oomy?

     
  9. UntilNextTime

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    If those of you who think you know what's going on, you don't. Take a listen, and learn from a psychologist.

    Jordan Peterson STUNS Lex Fridman on Vladimir Putin!!!

     
  10. UntilNextTime

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    You have no clue do you? Do you know who owns Odysee? Guess, can you? I'll help you. Google does. And who cares for the platform, when you should be focused on the content, which I take it's too much for you to bear as it crushes your whole belief system. So you take a pot shot at the hosting platform of the media. Good one loser.
     
  11. UntilNextTime

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    Now, we are speaking about traditional ancestral lands here.
     
  12. Reality

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    No one gives a ****. The nation in control of them ceded that control and an independent nation was created.
    No backsies.
     
  13. UntilNextTime

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    Exactly the points of true ignorance. You need to watch and listen to this if you're truly a hardcore believer. :below:
     
  14. Reality

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    Hardcore believer of what? Basic rules of law?
    That isn't russian territory: Your objection that Putin didn't sign off on it is specious, as he does not need to sign off on it since it happened in the era of his predecessor.

    I'll pass on the youtube grift propaganda thanks.
     
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  15. UntilNextTime

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    Did you do your own research or did MSM give you your perspective? If you gave away your perspective to be given to you by MSM, then you are a believer in the bullshit they spin.

    As for not watching the video, yep, another one who can't and won't face the true reality.
     
  16. Reality

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    Its documented historic fact that the then ruler of russia ceded the territory. I've seen the document he signed ffs.
    Come off it.

    I just don't give a **** about jordan peterson or what he has to say
     
  17. UntilNextTime

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    Yeah, the documented fact that doesn't see the light of day is the fact that many Russian leaders gave away land to Ukraine via coercion. Putin wants part of it back.
    As for Jordan Peterson, you fall into this category;



    Denialism

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    In the psychology of human behavior, denialism is a person's choice to deny reality as a way to avoid a psychologically uncomfortable truth.[1] Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.[2]

    In the sciences, denialism is the rejection of basic facts and concepts that are undisputed, well-supported parts of the scientific consensus on a subject, in favor of ideas that are radical, controversial, or fabricated.[3] The terms Holocaust denial and AIDS denialism describe the denial of the facts and the reality of the subject matters,[4] and the term climate change denial describes denial of the scientific consensus that the climate change of planet Earth is a real and occurring event primarily caused in geologically recent times by human activity.[5] The forms of denialism present the common feature of the person rejecting overwhelming evidence and trying to generate political controversy in attempts to deny the existence of consensus.

    The motivations and causes of denialism include religion, self-interest (economic, political, or financial), and defence mechanisms meant to protect the psyche of the denialist against mentally disturbing facts and ideas; such disturbance is called cognitive dissonance in psychology terms.
     
  18. Vernan89188

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    Hmm, so then why did you dismiss the content from my link?
    Google owning it means you give it credibility, or is it because it confirms your bias?
     
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  19. UntilNextTime

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    What, which one and when?
    Everybody knows Google, and uses it to search, are they not? For most they seem to be a reputable company, that is a huge chunk of Big Tech. I thought that knowing this, you'd feel better about it. As I said, who cares about the hosting platform? When you understand that MSM is controlled by those who control the narrative, you should always ask questions about the information they convey, or lack of it. Of course, my judgement is biased because I don't create my perspective of anything based on their comments, lack of info and lies.
     
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  20. LangleyMan

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    Change what to what? You don't say what you're wanting to accomplish.
    What are you talking about having started?
    I have no idea what you're talking about and I don't think you do, either.
     
  21. LangleyMan

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    It's increasingly obvious Putin won't win a conventional war. Are you wanting him to up the ante with WMD? What do you want?
     
  22. Vernan89188

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    So your bias is its a lie if you don't like it huh?
     
  23. UntilNextTime

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    No silly. I look at MSM, a variety of sources, to see what they have and have not got in common, the narrative. Then I look for alt sites and see what they have to say. 99.99% of it's the little independent/freelancers that have got it right. I am fact biased, not bullshit-biased.
     
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  24. UntilNextTime

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    It is not him who is now upping the ante. the US wants to nuke Russia or have you missed that bit? If you want to learn bout your perceived enemy, you best look at this.:below:

     
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    You need some serious education. Do you know of Klaus Schwab, leader of the World Economic Forum? Go and check out his rhetoric on the Great Reset and the 4th industrial revolution. This globalist nutters plans along with others, to change our way of life, and they don't have our best interests in mind.

    Once again, you're oblivious to it. A massive reset of everything. From wealth, housing, and food our complete existence. It isn't going to be a happy place if this happens. Why do you think Putin and Xi are bros?

    Just because you can't and maybe don't want to comprehend it, you'd make that statement. I've been keeping my finger on this pulse for some time, several years in fact. I certainly should think I have a clue what I'm banging on about.
     

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