Ukraine referendum

Of course it's rigged. Why, because all of MSM says so? Because all the ukies that are constantly under fire by their own military, they vote 1 for "Fck you elensky!" Yeah, it would seem rigged when MSM doesn't tell you the full story and gives you false narratives, hey?

 

The most convincing explanation is the one I heard from a former Russian MP. It is a way to legalize the deployment of conscripts to Ukraine without declaring war. That, of course, is why these sham referenda are suddenly being rushed through even as "partial" mobilization is suddenly underway. It is an emergency measure to shore up their failing army with a mixture of trained soldiers redeployed from elsewhere and raw recruits to try to halt Ukraine's advances.

 

NATO chief condemns ‘sham’ referendums in Donbass
https://www.rt.com/news/563434-stoltenberg-donbass-referendums-sham/

But of course, he and every other muppet would. Let's continue shelling our Russian-speaking people.

 

US and allies reject referendums
https://www.rt.com/news/563431-g7-referendums-ukraine-russia/

So, this means the poor Ukrainian souls that live in the regions holding the referendums are eternally fcked. The only way out for them is to move or die.

 

Yep, it's those same special 'u-turn' artillery rounds they shelled themselves with at the nuclear plant

 

Poster circa 1921 - Donbass the Heart of Russia



cocaine elensky about now..

 

The Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics as well as the Russian-controlled parts of the Ukrainian regions of Zaporozhye and Kherson are holding referendums on joining Russia on September 23-27.
https://sputniknews.com/20220924/li...on-1101159588.html?ysclid=l8flpcrzyv943257229

 

So no faith in Russian-held elections. Fair enough. But why so much faith in Ukrainian-held elections that defending Ukraine = 'protecting democracy'? Ukraine is rated about as corrupt as some of the worst South American countries... but Ukraine elections are more legit than Russias?

Bullshit. Its just more justification to involve ourselves in **** that aint our business.

Did any of you know that autocratic Azerbaijan is militarily invading democratic Armenia again? Does our government or our media or our virtue signalers care? NO. Cuz its not Russia.

 

It's just another cog being greased in the machine to bring about the great reset. More NATO/WEF/IMF nonsense.

 

They do care, yes. I've seen plenty of condemnation for Azerbaijan. Pelosi even visited Armenia and turned on the waterworks.

 

Russians care more for the rule of law than the average american like you.

It could easily be argued that makes them more civilized than we are. Many other facts of life show them to be more civilized than we are.

In this matter Russia has held the high moral ground since the start. NATO and the US are in their usual spot, in the gutter.

 

Where are they under fire ....tik tok timey....even now?....is Kharkiv,Odessa under fire?....show this?

 

Uhh...well..no...tik tok...it's the Mafiosi conscripts that need to get outta dodge.

 

Why shouldn't one trust referendums when those territories were always part of Russia and the majority of the people speak Russian and have a Russian national consciousness? The same could be said for the Hungarian speaking population in Ukraine as well as the others. I'm sure when Russia takes over, that all the different areas that were forced by the USSR to become a part of Ukraine, will be able to decide which nation they want to be part of.

If Kiev wanted to retain its borders, then it should have thought about it before they began killing and persecuting people to change the demographics. Too late now!

 

RT is as mainstream as it gets. They are operated by the Russian government.

 

Pelosi went to Armenia not to bring peace, but to instigate war as she did in Taiwan. We are losing our world dominance, so Washington is striking out wherever it can. Azerbaijan is being supplied with arms mostly by Turkey who gives it their full military support against Azerbaijan, but also by Israel to a lesser degree since Iran supports Armenia. So any fighting there will end up into a major conflagration.

Russia has a Security Treaty with Armenia that protects them from Turkey and has managed to bring peace in the latest fighting. It worked to Armenia's detriment and Pelosi is milking the Armenian discontent for all its worth. So Pelosi is certainly not on a good will mission.

 

We're even more mainstream. Our MSM are operated by 6 corporations and they all write in unison. You read one, who've read them all.


Ode To The Sociopaths

Some try to do what's right and true
yet we who own the media
will spread the lies so far and wide.
to serve our own criteria.

This way the only thing you'll know
is what we say and what we show.
And if it leads to war and strife,
and if it causes loss of life?
So what? - Jeannette

 

Exactly correct, all of it.

"the ukraine" hasn't been a democracy since 2014. They don't even let the ukrainians in the Donbass vote!! Why? Because they're ethnic Russians.

Why is it not a democracy? Because We (the US) did a Coup job on Yanukovych. Why? Because stupid ass politics; stupid ass Cold War propaganda; stupid ass Military Industrial Complex and....mainly....corruption in the US.

This is what happens when we involve ourselves in **** that ain't our business.

 

Instead of talking to the represetatives of Lugansk after they voted for special rights, Poroshenko responded by bombing the administrative building in Lugansk. It wasn't the first city though, Slaviansk was bombed by White Phosphorus after refusing to allow fracking. There were a lot of videos at one time of the attacks on Lugansk, as well as Mariupol.

 

You can't possibly think those referendums mean anything lol

You've ousted killed or jailed all the local pro Ukranians and are holding the referendum by gun point.

Nobody with half a brain care about their results and as such you will be gifted more freedom missiles.

We thank you for your tax paying dollars

 

This is my suspicion:

Russia fast forwarded the referendums to make the areas part of the Russian Federation as soon as possible. This way when Zalensky fires on them - as he will, then Putin will be able to turn it into a full scale war and end the fighting once and for all. Any fighting in Ukraine, will then be done by the Russian recruits from the areas, who will be fully supplied with the latest protection and equipment from Russia. That way they can better protect their homes and land.

By doing this, Moscow will be free to concentrate on Washington and Nato's latest provocation and flare up. I foresee it as the Baltic area.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/englis...demns-Russia-s-illegitimate-votes-in-Ukraine-


Big ooof. And Turkey has been much more moderate than everyone else and even they know these referendums are a joke.

I sure hope that zelenskys just ignores them and continues his push to drive Russia out.

 

It's not absurd. Only because you claim that Russia does it, the shelling on Russian-speaking Ukies. I'm trying to rationalise your claim. Even though the shelled Ukies do state it's their own military conducting genocidal missions on those people. It is the Ukie military/gov and NATO that started it all. See oomy, but you can believe all you like from MSM bullshit oomy.

 

It is going to be hilarious watching Russia lose and have to abandon the areas they falsely claimed with their shame referendum.

 

You are just lying as usual. The shell has been proven to have been fired from behind Russian lines and even the soccer field it was fired from has been identified. It was a short shell.



It is amazing how Russians always lie and try to blame everyone else for their own screw ups. You guys did the exact same thing after you shot down that airliner over Ukraine. Lies seem to be all Russians have. Crater analysis is a science and the conclusions are reliable.