Ukraine referendum

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by UntilNextTime, Sep 23, 2022.

  1. flyboy56

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    And every state has a company that is connected to the MIC which is why wars benefit states.
     
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    Not with the full force of NATO power.
     
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    You just took an exact quote from Putin's playbook!!!
     
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    Unlike Russia where every news outlet is forced to repeat whatever the Kremlin informs them to tell the people. Thus, the message is pretty much the same across the board.

    At least in the states, some news sites are able to be anti-war and against war or whatever our government is doing by speaking or even yelling out loud without repurcussions. Try that in Russia and you will be arrested.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Anti-War speech in the US without repurcussions" Someone has been filling your head with falsehood, propaganda and necessary illusion mate - completely out of the loop.
     
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    Better than the playbook of the moron don't you think ?
     
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    The difference here is that Putin's Nazi operation is the Warmonger here.
     
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    Right now, major news outlets promote articles that are 100% against the war and against the governments decisions. Try doing that in Russia and you will spend nights in some Gulag or die of "Suicide!"
     
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    I don't buy everything Putin says silly boy. YOU make that claim not I.

    That said, Putin holds the high moral ground in this conflict, defending his homeland as best he can.

    Biden and NATO reside in the moral gutter, from MH17 to the situation in Ukraine, supporting the Nazis at every turn and plundering the US Treasury for personal gain.
     
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    Ukraine did not invade Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine, a free country. Ukraine holds the moral ground here. Not Russian Nazi propaganda.
     
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    What have you believed from RT?
     
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    Ukraine shelled Russia for 8 years, led and supplied by NATO crooks.

    That's too hard for you to understand apparently.
     
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    Ukraine never once attacked Russian land. Russia attacked Ukrainian land and then tried to hold onto it. Massive difference. Don't let Putin's Kremlin Controlled media deceive you.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You offer another official falsehood. Ukraine shelled regions of the Donbas for 8 years or more.

    You've been deceived by masterful propaganda.
     
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    That's one crazy thing that you believe, at least.
     
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    Ukraine shelled Russians invading their home land unlike Russia invading Dunbas attempting to steal land.
     
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    I was in Poland like 2 days before the Russian invasion as a contractor doing work at a US Base in Poland and stayed for over 3 months. They keep us secluded so I didn't see much but only learned much from Polish residents, but I did have to bring back a ton of Ukrainian merchandise for people back in the states that wanted to show their support.
     
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    Lots of stuff over the years .. depends on what one is looking for. Only a moronic idiot disbelieves everything on RT and/or does not use RT as a source for certain things . What have you believed from RT ?
     
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    What "certain things" do you use RT as a source?
     
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    The invasions of Iraq and Libya were solely about NATO greed. I've heard no counter reasons that are credible
     
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    Yes, it's been quite a step change for America in the last few years. Looks like we could be getting another war in Europe very soon.
     
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    No wars is bad business, very bad business and mass redundancy.
     
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    NATO is just ramping up all along the borders of any NATO/Russian territory. Ukraine is defending Ukraine all be it while being funded heavily by NATO members.

    Unless NATO has boots on the ground in Ukraine, you cannot suggest that NATO is defending Ukraine.
     
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    Do you have any evidence or proof that Washington was looking to invade Russia to break it up?
     
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    The Russians are embarrassed by the incompetence and weakness of their military so Putin tries to deflect by kying and pretending they are losing to NATO instead of just little old Ukraine.
     
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