Ukraine referendum

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  1. ToughTalk

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    My idol Vlad? I'm not the one making stupid posts about how great Russia or Putin is, fella. I've stated this whole time that the us has free speech and Russia does not. Go check yourself fella.
     
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    That's all very interesting. Can you back it up?
     
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    And people wonder why the Donbass voted to join Russia. Your government's HIMARS in action today...hitting a mall in Donetsk. As the woman said at minute mark 2:02, pig-faced fagots with himars.

     
  4. ToughTalk

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    I mean...it's not like Russia's been all innocent either and when your faced to deal with it you give a bullshit "bad stuff happens on both sides, bro" answer."

    The reality is that this entire nonsense started when Russia started filtering in militia to disrupt the join, priming it for invasion.
     
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    The orcs should stop wasting their artillery bombing civilians in false flag attacks if they want to have a shot at winning this. Even if they can get more Ukrainians in the occupied regions to go along with fighting their own people based on this murderous, disgusting propaganda and disinformation, that is not going to keep the Ukrainian army from driving them out and retaking their land in the long run.
     
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    Most of the times the Russians are intentionally doing false flag attacks. They are just incompetent and untrained or using ancient equipment so the shells fall short. The problem is the Russians always deliberately lie and try to blame the other side for screw ups by the Russians themselves.

    We saw that with the short artillery round fired by the puppet forces which killed civilians in Donetsk.
     
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    If you are not the one .. then who is the "Fella" making stupid post about how great Putin and Russia are .. did you have an imaginary friend that I am not aware of ?

    You say Vlad is not your idol .. but you are fixated on Vlad and can't stop talking about him. I told you numerous times the conversation you jumped into is about the repercussions for Anti-War speech in the USA .. not Russia ..yet every post you cry "Russia Russia Russia" - like a forelorn lover or something .

    Your claim that there are no repercussions for Anti-War speech in the USA --- that there is "Freedom of Speech" in this area is simply False ... demonstrating your oblivion.

    "Check Yourself" - The one who needs be checked is the one running around crying "Russia Russia" for no apparent reason .. then claiming not to love Vlad .. have them check for a psychotic break from reality .. tell them about the imaginary people "making stupid posts about how Great Putin is "

    Can't believe you can't come up with a single Free Speech violation in the USA .. little understanding of the topic of the convo you jumped into .. sometimes better to be silent and thought of as a fool .. than to open mouth ..
     
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    The terrorist from the Manchester arena bombing, Salman abedi, was a member, along with his father, of the feb17th martyrs brigade in Libya which fought against the government forces (Gaddafi). That's one of the most high profile examples.

    LIFG Libyan Islamic fighting group. Listed as a terrorist organisation by UK. They have claimed responsibility for a failed assassinations against Gaddafi.

    Honestly, I could go on and on.
     
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    Toughtalk has not made a post about how great Putin and Russia are.
     
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    In the U.S. there are no government repercussions for anti-war speech. You should visit the U.S. and not just NYC.
     
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    Ron's retired. Rand has been on FOX for nearly every week.

     
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  12. ToughTalk

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    Show me the post where I'm praising Putin. Then when you can't find it I'll expect an apology.
     
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    In a time of universal deception, speaking or posting the truth is a radical act. :angel:
     
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    He did make such a post .. Do you have an imaginary friend as well ?
     
  15. ToughTalk

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    Show the post.

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    You were the one who brought praising Putin into the conversation.. I called him your Idol because you are fixated on him.

    Your the one who accused me of praising Putin .. "Falsely" I asked you about the voice in your head who told you that cause wasn't me.. The conversation is about your lack of understanding of free speech in the USA .. not about Russia Russia Russia.
     
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    Another uninformed soul desperate to maintain the necessary Illusion of free speech with a strawman. Who said is had to be Gov't repercussions ? .. not that there are not any .. but just pointing out your fallacy.

    Why do you think you and others are so oblivious to the speech violations in the USA ?
     
  19. ToughTalk

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    SHOW THE POST. Your recollection is askew. I want to see a post where I am praising Putin.

    Either link the post or apologize. You don't get to just make up bullshit.
     
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    Show me the post where I said you were praising Putin ? are you making things up again ?
     
  21. ToughTalk

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    I mean your most recent one was directly above your latest post...ffs.

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    Now show us the post where I praised Putin or apologize and walk away.
     
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    I would suspect it depends on who benefiting from the diversion of money into weapons.

    Wars and rumors of war give huge profits to the weapons makers (often called the 'defense industry' but they make weapons which can be used for anything, usually for attack or training).

    The money comes from the public and just look at how much in debt the dollar is now. So war is bad for peaceful people and good for war makers.
     
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    Ye, I've always thought the term "defense industry" is misinformation. The west shouldn't be allowed to call it that, it should be relabelled as "invasion industry"
     
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    Nowhere did I say you praised Putin in the post are you reading impaired ? ... You claimed that I Praised Putin .. a complete falsehood.. in response I told you that you were the one fixated on Putin .... must be your idol..

    The conversation question you jumped into was about USA .. not "Russia" nor Putin. So either respond coherently to the question at hand .. and come up with a violation of speech in the USA .. or admit defeat .. having no clue what freedom of speech is .. and completely oblivious to violations in this nation .. which is the one I am interested in .. not "Russia Russia Russia" .. as they don't make nor enforce the law here .. as much as you seem to think otherwise
     
  25. Bob Newhart

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    Hopefully, everyone can now agree this so-called referendum was a load of crap.
     

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