Ukrainians Capture US Mercenary in Kharkov

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  1. katsung47

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    and what about all the thousands of Russian mercenaries in Ukraine?
     
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    Seems like that video is from April. Wonder what became of him? Since the US doesn't have any people on the ground in Ukraine (LOL), I guess he's on his own.
     
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    Poor guys. What sent them in that hell? Now they are treated like dog meat. Are they adrenaline junkies or, they are sons of the "great duchy of Lithuania" ?
     
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    "Whatdoesitmean.com" now that sounds like a reputable source citing the Voice of Russia a state owned propaganda machine for the Kremlin.



    Sorcha Faal is the alleged author of an ongoing series of "reports" published at WhatDoesItMean.com, whose work is of such quality that even other conspiracy nutters don't think much of it. There is a high chance that "Sorcha Faal" is actually David Booth, the owner/operator of the website, or someone collaborating with him.
    WhatDoesItMean.com

    The website is an eyesore and apparently has been created by someone who taught themselves web-design in the 1990s and decided anything beyond garishly coloured static HTML is just giving in to them. Besides publishing Sorcha Faal's reports, WhatDoesItMean.com functions as a news aggregator, collecting links to news published elsewhere as "Top World News Now," neatly sorted by country in a large table on the front page.

    Its current "About" page reveals almost no info about its owner(s), other than saying that "WhatDoesItMean.Com is a wholly owned of [sic] subsidiary of Long Trail Acres Publishing LLC."[1]
    [edit] Purported identity

    In 2004, the site claimed to be by Booth.[2] In 2005, it claimed to be by a Russian scientist named Sorcha Faal,[3] about whom none of the corroborating details like workplace or academic affiliations checked out. Funnily enough, the name "Sorcha[wp]" is not even remotely Russian (it's Gaelic). By 2009, the site was claiming "Sorcha Faal" was the title of the head of the "Order of Sorcha Faal,"[4] whose real name is Maria Theresa of Dublin.[5] (The Russian scientist version of Sorcha Faal has been retconned[wp] as being merely the person occupying the "Sorcha Faal" position at the time.)


    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sorcha_Faal
     
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    This is total BULL S#!%!

    Made up video.

    We don't use Merc's in such instances or highly charged environments.

    Besides....if we wanted to make something happen in this area....we would simply....DO IT.

    As of right now we don't have enough reason to do so.

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    I read about the thirteen American mercenaries who died when a helicopter was shot down quite a while back on Greek Defense net. They had a video of the one survivor being taken to the hospital. They also mentioned that the Americans refused to take the bodies. What surprised the Freedom Fighters at the time was that none of the other helicopters stopped to pick up the survivor.

    As for the video above with the American, that was shown quite a while ago. Not much was said about it afterwards, so it might not have been real. What is real though, is that there are Greystone mercenaries fighting the freedom fighters in Ukraine.
     
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    I HATE MERC'S!!

    They make my JOBS all the more difficult.

    Merc's are being hired by many sides in this conflict.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Breaking news: We have caught the 26th Russian agent.

    Guess what, they're affiliated with the army, not the populous.
     
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    USA hire mercenaries at a way higher price than they pay their proper troops, who can face danger for less, for their country, not money. Even if they've got plenty of idle troops sipping beer in Berlin.

    Why?

    I think it's two reasons.

    Firstly, it's another way to pass lots of taxpayer money to corporate pals in bed with the politicians, like they do with offense contractors routinely, paying higher than retail.

    Secondly, these mercenaries are more capable. They can carry out all manner of crimes "privately" so it's not officially on behalf of the USA (even though they are paid by the USA) and so they can circumvent the code of conduct that regular soldiers are otherwise subjected to (occasionally). Kind of like how the CIA are the outsource agents for presidential crimes.

    I can't think of any other reasons to spend that cash. This is why the Pentagon dispatch mercs to Central and South America to fight the literal drug war.

    It is appalling that someone facing danger for their country is getting paid less by their country even though they are the one with the USA insignia on their uniform. I totally agree with you here. Like the terrorists in Syria, USA give more money to unmarked scumbags, terrorists and dictators than their own uniformed troops, while pissing on their veterans at home, and it is disgraceful.
     
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    I cannot confirm or deny anything other than I HATE MERC'S!!!

    I consider BLACKWATER....simply a bunch of MERC'S!!!

    And the people who work for Blackwater are very capable.....but it is who is controlling them that is at issue.

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    When I say 'capable', I mean capable to commit crimes, as Blackwater certainly are, and for some reason the world doesn't consider using proxy forces as the same thing as using normal forces, for the same intent and purpose.

    As far as who's the better/stronger/deadlier soldier, I have no idea, except I imagine that SAS and SEALS could kick both of their asses.
     
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    You really don't understand the construct of these issues.

    It is complex....and what was once SAS or SEALS or CIA today...tomorrow may need a job.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Then can you help me understand by explaining it please. Obvious CIA crimes are so prevalent they appear to be the construct itself, and nothing else can seem to, because that is all top-secret stuff.

    The CIA have been secretly funded and all their crimes were overlooked for decades, so I'd say that's pretty good job security.
     
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    Since the conflict beginning - each time when to Kiev there came and come people from CIA or policy or the Kiev authorities consult by the U.S. Government - just at once next day there start firing in the Southeast. Simple soldiers, Ukrainian or American etc. aren't so strongly guilty in war. They the majority where wouldn't be, though in Iraq, Afganistan... trust that they make democracy or make a better life for a majority in the future to these countries. Politicians - leading events are guilty first of all. In the Southeast of Ukraine, government of the USA-they push ukrain government and support them to kill people Southeast.
    Justifying the actions by beautiful words - Ukraine has to be uniform, and terrorists (which already thousands? ! ) try to separate this country.
     
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    it is a fake video
    watch this [video=youtube;dqStlAt3ODc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqStlAt3ODc[/video]
     
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    OK....I will teach and explain this to you to the extent I am allowed to do so.

    Understand that the people who work at the Agency or NSA or work as a member of SOCOM or work like I do...as a Team Leader of SPECIAL TEAMS....all these people are the absolute brightest, smartest, most capable, most capable of thinking outside the box....strongest...but not just in body but mentally as well....and as far as my Team is concerned as I am NOT MILITARY....I pick my own Team Members and the members who right now are all members of the U.S. Military...and I have had members from Aussie Land, the U.K. and Canada....all these men I chose I chose because of a few reasons.

    #1. They were quick to react by THINKING FIRST!!

    #2. They were not men who would SHOOT FIRST ASK QUESTIONS LATER.

    #3. They all had families and girlfriends and wives who LOVED THEM as I will NOT choose Team Members that have nothing to live for and as well a man who has a connection to family and perhaps children is a Man who can identify with people no matter where they come from and what religion they have.

    #4. Those I select are men of extreme capability to such an extent that any other group going against us is like that other groups being the Boy Scouts and we are a Marine Mechanized Division.

    #5. All my gut's must speak multiple languages and read them and write them as well.

    #6. Computer skills must be way above the bar.

    #7. All Members must be proficient in using, firing, cleaning...etc...all types of weapons even such things as bows, knives...etc....as well as be highly proficient in survival which I also teach several forms of and must be capable of being able to run and fight on a 24 hour consistent basis with only 1 liter of water for 96 hours straight.

    Anyways....you get the idea and there is much more.

    Now...all these...well they are just KIDS to me....have Mom's and Dad's...Brother's and Sister's....Girlfriends and Wives and Grandma's and Grandpa's...etc....and now that I have said this some of them are..."CIVILIAN"...in the same manner as I am.

    Now...knowing this....could you now possibly say as you posted...."The CIA have been secretly funded and all their crimes were overlooked for decades,"....and think a few of these KIDS are or want to be part of some CRIMES???

    They are KIDS....just like any kids.

    It is MY JOB....to keep them alive.

    I will continue if you understand so far.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    So what?!??! This doesn't change what I said.. I don't care if all your Boy Scouts shine brighter than Jesus, personally hand-picked to do rightouus by the reincarnated Mother Theresa herself, it doesn't change the fact that they have been committing the most perverse, vile and wretched of sin for decades and have gotten away with every single shred of it.


    Do you not remember the devil's best trick? That is that he somehow tricked you into thinking he's the good guy, even when he's committing nothing but pure, unadultered evil in real-time for time immemorialized.. Hitler had a wife and a grandmother too.
     
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    There's already a thread on this months ago. Its fake
     
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