UN, singles out Israel as world’s only violator of women’s rights

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  1. notme

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    No mate, you're just ranting personal attacks. What's to argue when even EU nations condemn Israel? The Israeli Jews are the problem. They have been ever since they ethnically cleansed 100.000's of civilians. There is nothing anti-Semitic about it. It's factually so.
     
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    This is so far off topic. Really lol
    All you're doing is supporting war criminal behavior like ethnic cleansing.
    Bravo.
     
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    It's anti-semitic to accuSe the Jews as deserving all of their persecutions over the last 2,000 years.
     
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    So you now condemn terrorist attacks upon Israeli Jewish civilians in Israel?
     
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    Only muslim women rights matter..... oh wait NM
     
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    I do not understand how, in this day and age, with all the resources available on the internet, people STILL believe Israel "occupies" Palestine.
     
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    It's a legal description based on the Geneva convention
     
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    I don't recall a muslim nation occupying parts of the world, and than oppress women there.
     
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    that's not my argument, but your personal attack.
     
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    Why?
     
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    you're replying to how things went in Asia and eastern Europe. And your reply doesn't make any sense at all.
     
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    It says the Jew state attacked Egypt. Not the other way around.
    Can't you read?
     
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    Jordan then attacked Israel.
     
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    Jews still started the war. And it's just disgusting that somehow this gives the Jew state card blanche to ethnically cleanse around. The EU nations obviously say no. And condemn the paria of the world ones more. Why is the Jew state so evil?
     
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    Why did Israel attack Egypt?
     
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    Cause they are surrounded by evil nations that wish to destroy them because they are Yahood
     
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    This was a action comittee within the un, not the full un

    And the specific question under consideration by this committee was:
    Economic and social repercussions of the Israeli occupation on the living conditions of the Palestinian people in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan
    It seems to me that this thread egregiously misrepresents what is going on as an action by the entire un that is evaluating women's rights around the world and after due consideration deciding that israel is the most condemnable offender.... this is not even remotely close to what happened

    I have to wonder how it is that you arrived at the version of events that you presented when opening this thread? Did you do even minimal research? Or did you simply run with second hand misrepresentations?
     
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    YGTBSM. It's a shame Golda Meir isn't alive to comment on this.
     
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    I see what you are trying to do, but you just ended up admitting that Palestinians put their people in harms way by launching attacks from populated areas. They sacrifice their own children for nothing more than images to be used to gain sympathy from people like you.

    When it comes to human rights, Israel is the only strip of land in the region where it is safe to be female, gay, Christian, Jewish, atheist, opinionated, or critical of government/religion.

    Israel is thriving is not seen as a victim.
     
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    The op conveniently left out a link to the article - probably because that would have shown the bias of the authors. The UN report was not specifically about how Israel treats it's own women but how it treats Palestinian women and children in the territories it illegally occupies.

    The article you quoted and which you are using to try to paint Israel as a victim does not state this but attempts whitewash the brutality of Israel's occupation by presenting a strawman argument regarding Islam's treatment of women in general.

    And I could quote any of the major religious texts out of context to present brutal treatment of women:

    "It only gets worse. Women are not to have any influence; in fact it is preferable that they do not even speak. 1st Corinthians (14:34-5) says “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak: but to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame to speak in the church.” So not only should they not speak but they should also obey their husbands (the only cases where I have heard the use of obedience in the house is for children and dogs). They should also be kept ignorant of anything their husband doesn’t want them to know. Way to go Bible on degrading the status of half the world’s population!"

    https://whistlinginthewind.org/2012/04/22/terrible-parts-of-the-bible-2-sexism/


    I know what you are up to and generally avoid these kinds of threads as the dogwhistle attacks on the victims of occupation that they are but in this case the hypocrisy is best pointed out.
     
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    So, I read the actual UN press release from your link and this is what it stated:

    In a recorded vote of 45 in favour to 2 against (Canada, United States), with 4 abstentions (Brazil, Cameroon, Togo, Ukraine), the Council adopted a resolution titled “Economic and social repercussions of the Israeli occupation on the living conditions of the Palestinian people in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan”.

    By its terms, the Council called for the full opening of the border crossings of the Gaza Strip, in line with Security Council resolution 1860 (2009) to ensure humanitarian access, as well as the sustained, regular flow of person of goods, the lifting of movement restrictions on Palestinians and other urgent steps to alleviate the serious humanitarian situation in the Territory. The Council demanded that Israel comply with the Protocol on Economic Relations it signed with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in 1994 and called upon Israel to restore and replace civilian property, vital infrastructure, agricultural lands and government institutions that have been damaged or destroyed due to its military operations.

    Further, the Council reaffirmed the inalienable right of the Palestinian people and the Arab population in the occupied Syrian Golan to all their natural and economic resources, calling upon Israel to immediately cease its exploitation of natural resources and its dumping of waste materials in the occupied areas. resources.

    Tarik Alami, Director of the Emerging and Conflict-Related Issues Section of the United Nations Economic Commission for Western Asia (ESCWA), who introduced the related ESCWA report, said that overall, the protracted Israeli occupation has had a detrimental effect on the living conditions of Palestinians and Syrians, making it nearly impossible for them to achieve the targets enshrined in the Sustainable Development Goals. Moreover, 2.5 million Palestinians – about half the population - require humanitarian assistance.

    Pointing out that Gaza’s economy contracted by 6.5 per cent in 2018 - after shrinking 12.5 per cent in 2017 – he declared: “Real de-development is unfolding there.” Meanwhile, unemployment in the Gaza Strip is among the highest in the world. In the Syrian Golan Heights, Israel’s actions intended to annex that land are illegal under international law and, therefore, remain null and void. Citing more than 1,500 demolitions orders in the Syrian Golan, he said young Syrians are forced to seek employment opportunities elsewhere.

    So, perhaps it is not I who needs to dig a little deeper but others on this thread which was posted in a rather disingenuous attempt to paint Israel as a victim and to discredit the UN as an international body.

    By your own link, the UN report had nothing to do with how Israel treats it's own women but on how it is treating women in the territory it illegally occupies and the economic conditions faced by civilians in those occupied territories.
     
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    I do not understand how, in this day and age, with all the resources available on the internet, people STILL believe Israel "occupies" Palestine.
     
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    cause they pay attention to international law?

    nevermind the fact that Israel does not apply Israeli law in the West Bank
     
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    The occupation is illegal under international law which Israel is in violation of. The US also often refuses to follow international law as in it's illegal attacks on other sovereign nations the most recent being Iraq.

    Mind that under international law there are only two legal ways to attack another nation. One is by UN security council resolution and the other if you are attacked first. The US has tried to use resolution 660 and 678 as legal basis but these were about the 1st gulf war in 91 and nothing to do with the 2003 invasion in which the security council recused itself.

    The '67 war was begun by Israel and Begin as well other key figures in the decision to attack as well as US intelligence have, have stated that they knew Egypt's military deployment was defensive only and that Egypt had no plan to attack Israel.

    It does not matter that not all of you see the Israelis occupation as illegal. Under international law it is ILLEGAL.

    Which is probably a good reason why so many on this board want to scrap the UN and move it out of America and why the US itself does not sign international criminal court or landmine agreements.

    Get's in the way of killing people and taking over territory or getting rid of governments you don't like.
     

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