UN, singles out Israel as world’s only violator of women’s rights

Under international law, the WB belongs to Israel.
You cannot occupy land that belongs to you.

 

100% wrong

the occupation is legal.

what is illegal, are the settlements and israel's misuse of state and private land.

 

That's what nations do. Get over it. I wouldn't want to live in a country that wasn't strong enough to do so.

You wouldn't either.

 

Egypt declared the Strait of (don't remember the name) closed to the Israelis. That is a recognized act of war.

Prior to the 2003, the Iraqis were trying to lock targeting radars on U.S. and British aircraft over the no fly zones. That is also a recognized act of war.

 

Perhaps you should go back and study some of the resolutions regarding the occupation:

The sovereignty of the Palestinian people over Palestine has been recognized by numerous United Nations resolutions. The inalienable rights of the Palestinians have been reaffirmed as well. In this regard the main General Assembly resolutions are the following:

Not to be argumentative but the occupation is not legal never mind that it violates the 4th Geneva convention concerning the treatment of civilians in occupied territories.

 

UN has never declared Israel's military occupation of the West Bank or Golan to be "illegal".

 

You probably mean the Straits of Tiran. There was a territorial dispute and Israel refused to allow UN peacekeepers into it's territory after the Suez crisis. At any rate, a territorial dispute is not a recognized act of war. Israel has blockaded Gaza and parts of Syria for years - no one seems bothered by that.

The no-fly zones were installed during the 1st.Gulf war and had nothing to do with 2003. The reason for attacking Iraq in 2003 was imaginary WMD remember.....

Even so targeting by radar planes in your own airspace hardly constitutes a recognized act of war.

 

Violating international law is by definition, "illegal."

Clearly you did not read the link I provided you.

 

Why not?

 

Well, Gaza is a shooting gallery where you could hardly avoid being in harms way when Israel goes "mowing the lawn," which is the admitted strategy. There is no evidence that "human shields" are deliberately used by Hamas and the PA in order

It's not an act of war. Attacking another sovereign country without UN mandate on false pretenses, on the other hand......

 

Gaza is so congested there is literally no way not to be in "harms way," when Israel decides to go "mowing the lawn" as they call it in the occupied territories:

"Israeli hardliners joke about the periodic need to decimate each new generation of Palestinian militants as “mowing the grass,” a process underway again in new bombardments of Gaza. This ugly metaphor has also penetrated the think-tank world of Official Washington, as ex-CIA analyst Elizabeth Murray learned.

The cavalier language is symptomatic of the policymaking community’s increasingly pervasive tendency to disregard and disparage the humanity of Palestinian victims of Israeli attacks, which are often waged by Israel’s high-tech drones and U.S.-supplied F-16’s. There is also a tendency to ignore or downplay Israeli war crimes.

This dangerously sociopathic attitude is prevalent whether cloaked in a cheap joke or reflected in the failure by the State Department spokesman to condemn or even acknowledge the criminality of Israel’s latest aerial and sea-based bombardment of Palestinian civilians, at least 18 of whom have been killed in the past 48 hours. Three Israelis also have died in retaliatory rocket fire.

After the latest attacks, the State Department’s statement justified Israel’s bombardment of Gaza as Israel’s “right to defend itself” against the launching of relatively primitive rockets, mostly by radical groups, from inside Gaza. Yet, while the State Department urged both sides to avoid civilian casualties, nowhere was there mention of the Palestinians’ right to defend themselves from various attacks by Israel. Apparently only one side is granted that privilege, according to the U.S. statement.

The relegation of Palestinians to a less-than-human status by Israel and the United States especially the inhabitants of Gaza who are perpetually locked into an open-air prison and subject to an Israeli blockade was noted by MIT professor Noam Chomsky after a visit to Gaza to attend an academic conference. In comments broadcast by “Democracy Now” on Nov. 14, Chomsky remarked:

“It’s kind of amazing and inspiring to see people managing somehow to survive as essentially caged animals subject to constant, random, sadistic punishment – only to humiliate them – no pretext. They [the Palestinians] would like to have dignified lives, but the standard Israeli position is that they shouldn’t raise their heads.”

https://consortiumnews.com/2012/11/16/likening-palestinians-to-blades-of-grass/

There is no evidence that Hamas or the PA actually use civilians as "human shields." When Israel goes on one of it's murderous rampages after a couple of those rockets land on it's territory - using harming no one - civilians are the targets in the fish bowl shooting gallery that is the worlds largest open air prison colony......

Israel is thriving on largely the 3 billion in foreign aid and more that it gets from the US to maintain its occupation - the largest aid to any other country in the world by far - and that is military aid.

 

Ummmmm.........cause nobody was actually attacked and no one actually died...........

 

Well they are attacking from populated areas surrounded by women and children. As much as I would love to post Pallywood videos, this thread is about women's rights and the region surrounding Israel is in no position to criticize.

 

Your post started with a false statement. There is a way; stop attacking.

 

Duh - Uh

The U.N. suck as it is reliably calls out Israel.
Like for provoking terrorist attacks.


The U.N. created Israel by a 2/3rds vote of the General Assembly.
Threatened with all those wars of annihilation,
No Blue Helmet enforced Israel's right to exist.
UN peace keepers from Pakistan returned rockets to the terrorist firing them at Israel in Gaza.
U.N. Peace Keepers stationed in Sinai left on request of Egypt / Sadat preparing for the Yom Kippur War.


If YOU were Israel
would you respect the U.N. today?

In conclusion I challenge any Israel critics to name any Muslim nation
where one can stand on their soap box and denounce the government
with such tolerance of Israel?
That's denounce the gov't, not incite to violence!


Moi
Time for the U.N. to relocate.
San Paolo, Brazil? although Portuguese is not an approved UN language.
Maybe some location where French is an official language such as
Congo or Central African Republic.
We want our U.N. people to work, not party in NYC!

 

No, you are still the one not getting it. A UN body packed full of nations with dubious human rights records passes a series of general resolutions and then targets one resolution at a single nation - Israel. That is straight out bias taken alone, but it is actually part of a pattern of behaviour at the UN. Over the last decade Israel has been the subject of more individually targeted resolutions than any other nation. This includes Syria, which has murdered 400,000 people (mostly civilians) in the same time period. Only the most prejudiced person could consider that reasonable.

Nowhere in my post did I mention treatment of women, so your reading & argumentation skills don't appear to be improving.

This whole exercise is one more example of blatant bias against Israel at the UN. If you don't see it you are either ignorant or just as biased as those targeting Israel.

 

No this thread is trying to turn a UN report on the conditions of women and children in the territories Israel occupies into a canard about treatment of women in general in the Arab world.

They are attacking from populated areas surrounded by women and children because that is what Gaza is. Do you actually understand how small the open air prison of Gaza is or how condensed the population is?

There are no underpopulated areas.

 

Or conversely, stop the blockade of Gaza and end the occupation.

 

Someone doesn't have to be killed for something to be an act of war. Such as the Iranian seizure of the U.S. embassy in 1979. Seizing an embassy is an act of war no matter if anyone dies or not.

 

So the UN is a body packed with nations with dubious human rights records - yet only US and Canada voted against. So all the other nations have dubious human rights records? What about the US. It is estimated that 400,000 (mostly women and children) died through starvation and lack of medicine through US sanctions against Iraq alone - that does not even include the hundreds of thousands killed in the actual invasion - and that is just Iraq.

Syria was involved in a civil war and while the government there is not a good one, the forces looking to overthrow him including those backed by the US and Saudi Arabia included al Qaeda affiliates and fundamentalist Sunni militias including ISIS who introduced a reign of terror and made Syria a living hell - all in an effort to force regime change against a government it doesn't like.

[quoteNowhere in my post did I mention treatment of women, so your reading & argumentation skills don't appear to be improving.[/quote]

The entire subject of the op on this thread is to compare treatment of women between Israel and Arab nations. I guess you missed that part.

No, the whole exercise of this thread is to try and dismiss a UN report on the treatment of civilians in the territories Israel has continued to occupy despite international condemnation and a host of UN resolutions and proclamations by comparing Israel's domestic treatment of women with that of Arab countries. Classic strawman argument.

Here I'll try posting this again for anyone who is genuinely interested. Note the number of Jewish and even Christian (who often share the same conditions as Palestinians) commentators in this film who are commenting. These include Noam Chomsky and Phyllis Bennis:



Yeah, you can really protest the occupation in occupied Palestine:

Rachel Corrie's fifth grade speech:



Death of Rachel under Israeli bulldozer destroying Palestinian home:

 

Not our fault. If Iraq had complied with U.S. demands (which were approved by the UN) then the sanctions would not have been implemented.

And your figure of 400,000 women and children in Iraq dying due to the sanctions simply confirms that the U.S. invasion in 2003 was the more merciful option.

 

Anti-Zionists don't usually know what international law really is. They are unable to quote even one single line in one international law.

Israeli law applies in West Bank whenever it's necessary to resolve a dispute or a controversial issue. The Supreme Court in Jerusalem has jurisdiction over areas of West Bank still administered by Israel. This is an example:
https://supremedecisions.court.gov....\140\084\n25&fileName=05084140_n25.txt&type=4

 

Its not like they give Israel a choice. They are kept angry and primitive to preserve their willingness to be used as pawns against Israel.

 

Please quote the relevant passages in international law related to the Israeli occupation and the legal ways to attack a nation.

 

LOL, of course the Islamic theocracies treat women so well.