Unarmed Kid Murdered (part 9)

You must be joking! YOU are requesting reliable sources?

You mean. . . like those pictures of the FAKE Trayvon you posted in order to demonize him?

What a joke!

And, if Tayvon had managed to wrestle the gun away from Zimmerman (in spite of weighing at least 60lbs LESS than the "wannabe cop," and Zimmerman had been shot. . .I bet Trayvon would have been in jail immediately. . .although the basics would have remained the same: Zimmerman is the one who pursued Trayvon. If he had not, Trayvon would be alive today, and Zimmerman could have resumed playing "neighborhood watch dog!"

 

You are funny, Sadanie!

Do you just make this stuff up out of thin air, or what!

You just wish those photos WERE NOT of the real Trayvon Martin!

 

It has not been established where Trayvon was coming from, only that he had been at a 7-11.

It has not been established that he was following him in his car. This is conjecture.

I don't know where you got this. It could be true.

That is not the correct chain of events. He said "These ***holes always get away" several exchanges before being asked if he was following.

Zimmerman agreed to meet the police. He gave a fixed location where they would find his truck parked.

Completely contrived.

Total conjecture.

Trayvon was certainly "beating the guy in the red sweater (Zimmerman) up" according to the witness.

I was pummeled in several highsides which included broken bones and immediately sprang to my feet and lifted my motorcycle and began riding again. Shock is a funny thing. I told you to stop using the word proof. I suggest you stop using derivatives as well.

That is non-sequitur logic. Stop saying prove. You don't know what it means. Try "suggests", or better yet "suggests to me".

If you completely invent a separate encounter of which there is no evidence and nobody has suggested happened then yes... he is lying.

 

Great question. Piscivorous!

Why wasn't this incident a problem the day it actually happened?

It must be a slow news week!

It is a well known fact the Left will tell any falsehood to advance their radical political agenda.

If the Left is involved, you can bet it is a lie!

They are “milking” this incident for all it is worth!

Those on the left have no shame! They will use any "incident" to their political advantage if they believe they have an opportunity for even the slightest bit of success!

 

I am not going to dispute the facts as you have laid them out, my issue with this case is how the media and the left are politicizing this tragedy. Here are my thoughts and concerns:
1. Zimmerman should not have approached him on foot and waited for the cops to arrive and address the perceived "threat" Zimmerman felt Martin held.
2. What is a White Hispanic as Zimmerman has been described?
3. Why are liberals blaming Rush Limbaugh for this?
4. Why is Spike Lee and other Black "Leaderr" tweeting Zimmerman's address?
5. Why is the left so focused this being a "White on Black" crime? I fail to see the same attention given to Black on Black, Black on White, White on Asian, Asian on Hispanic crime etc, etc etc...

Sharpton and his cronies have all shown up to get their faces on T.V. to create more racial tension and divide. I am simple, wrong is wrong period. A few weeks back in Kansas I believe, a white teenage boy was set on fire by some blacks on his front porch while they shouted take that white boy. There was no commentary from Obama on the subject, no famous athletes and actors rallying to support the victim and only a small article of coverage by the media. I hope that justice is served for both Martin's family and for the boy who was set on fire.

This was my first post so please do not be too hard...lol

 

Brilliant synopsis and question.

 

Agreed!

I have a question. It is somewhat sensitive so I have to be careful how I ask it.

Why do so many black people commit black-on-black crimes? You don’t find this affliction in the Asian communities or other communities, at least not to the extent it seems to exist in the black community.

It is true that, "Internalized racism and black-on-black violence are intimately woven gloves of social suicide. African Americans who blame racism as a reason for their bad choices are only revealing to us their lack and absence of personal responsibility."

The black culture and black song lyrics seem to encourage and excuse black-on-black crime. Look at the way these lyrics glorify gang violence and refer to blacks women as "hoes" and suggest they are not worthy of anything other than frequent hot sex for their male partners and childbirth.

Why are our balck leaders not working very hard day-after-day to turn this "blight" on the black communtiy around?

Sad. Very Sad.

 

Asking a question is synonomous to making a point?

You have an interesting perception of language.

Based on the question you asked, I came to a few conclusions about your point of view, and specifically asked if either was correct or if there was another view you hold that might shed light on the peculiar nature of your question.

Your failure to adequately answer means I must hold to my original conclusions. Which therefore means I disagree with you.

 

lol well since your conclusions were hilariously illogical, I disagree with me too.

 

Bill Cosby spoke out against it and was criticized.

 

Her Testimony is the most important evidence next to Zimmerman's 911 call. It connects the dots between when Zimmerman ended his call and the shooting. Remember, after the 911 call was released, Zimmerman claimed he returned to his car and was jumped from behind by Trayvon. Her testimony, plus the location of the shooting, show this was not true.

Her testimony shows that Trayvon was acting reasonable, fleeing Zimmerman, attempting to evade Zimmerman, and trying to return home.

While the 911 call shows that Zimmerman was the pursuer. Acting recklessly by ignoring police procedure, hunting down Martin, and confronting Martin.

Martin was pursued and confronted by Zimmerman. A confrontation started and Martin reasonably defended himself under Florida's Stand Your Ground law from a Reckless Aggressor.

Zimmerman was the aggressor who consistently escalated a dangerous situation until it resulted in the death of Trayvon Martin. Zimmerman did not act reasonably. A reasonable person would have followed police instructions. Zimmeran acted recklessly and thus is not entitled to the protection of the Florida SYG law. Zimmerman also was the initial aggressor and pursuer and, by his actions, waived the Common Law protection of Self-Defense.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eGuctYqCDvo

Wrong.

 

Posting flawed conjecture over and over, despite being shown the flaws, does not make it less flawed.

 

It is divisive almost everyone has an opinion. I am very much a 2nd amendment supporter. I can not see why this Zimmerman has so many defenders. He should face charges for manslaughter at the very least. Then it is up to a jury not public opinion. So it appears both side of this debate have their issues. There is no advance your ground law. I support the right of self-defense this does not sound like such a case. To support a man like that lowers credibility for actual cases of self-defense. I feel sorrow to the parents who lost a child. I have no respect for those who use this event to support a agenda.

 

So Trayvon didn't have the right to defend himself.

Please tell me what authority Zimmerman had to hold this kid anywhere or for that matter even question him about anything. Please tell me.

So a total stranger approaching someone at night is ok and the person being approached has no right to defend themselve or get away from the person approaching.

Well one of them have to be in the wrong and in a court of law it is going to be the person who approached another without the authority to do so.

I ask again, what authority did Zimmerman have to question or detain Trayvon Martin.

 

What right does he have to do any of the above. Not a (*)(*)(*)(*) one.

 

My facts beat your opinion.

 

They are not facts. It is wild conjecture. Calling them facts does not make them so.

 

That's the reasonable opinion. Almost everyone is upset about this case because there wasn't even an evidentiary hearing.

 

Opinion. No basis in fact.

 

This is not shown to be untrue. Again... Zimmerman lost sight of Martin. Martin says, according to witness, that he lost him. Zimmerman may well have been on his way BACK to the SUV when the witness recommended he continue to flee, which the witness says he refused to do... THEN the confrontation happened.

That is as fat as my crayons get.

You are making assumptions, and proposing wild conjecture as facts, when they are not. Any number of scenarios make ALL of the statements true, and Zimmerman on the defence. You insist he chased down and attacked the boy because it is what you choose to believe. It COULD be the scenario, I dunno. Nobody does at this point.

 

Since the 2nd pic isn't even Trayvon. I'm not sure what the point of your post is. Or than like most conservative posts to lie and mislead.

 

To hell with prudence, a kid is dead from just walking to the store and trying to get back home.