Undocumented husband and father of two is deported after 30 years in the United States.

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  1. AlphaOmega

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    reagan tried this and dems didnt follow through with it. Sorry but if you break the law, it has to have consequences otherwise society breaks down. Case in point dems once again wont accept any measure to prevent this from happening again in the future. They want the flow of illegals to continue and because they wont agree to stop it, no deal is made to save guys like this. This guy leaving is on dems squarely as any cogent thought process should conclude. I support deportation of these people until the flow of illegals is handled properly. How about the illegals that murder our citizens...anyone on the left feel bad about that? or is it this guy we cry about?
     
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    He knew the risks.....Mahallo!
     
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    My mistake, the 14th amendment. Get rid of citizenship by simple being born inside US borders. That way there are no more anchor babies. There's an entire industry dedicated to helping women be in America when their children on born just so they can have an American passport.
     
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    Let me help you clean that up.

     
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    So you pick and choose who is a US citizen and can deport anyone you claim is not.
     
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    ICE is not breaking up a family, the family is free to follow him down to Mexico so they can all live happily ever after.
    But the blame should be put squarely on the shoulders of the US Government for not enforcing immigration laws because a judge ordered his deportation in 2006 yet he still 'worked in the landscape industry' and his employer logically knew he was an illegal. he went through the taxpayer funded education system who logically knew he was an illegal, got a drivers license or ID card when the agency who issued those documents logically knew he was an illegal.
     
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    Why? ICE was kind enough to give him a highly discretionary pass for over a decade. There is a new sheriff in town........and he's enforcing our duly passed immigration laws........not looking for votes
     
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    Wrong

    unlike liberals conservatives treat everyne the same and let the chips fall where they may
     
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    History in this country shows that is a lie.
     
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    Why is it that liberals think getting away with a crime for many years magically means the crime didn't happen?
     
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    It would depend on whether they would become part of the permanent underclass Democrat voters.
     
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    Mexico's immigration laws are tough and vigorously enforced. If she went as an illegal there's a good chance she'd end up in jail for a long time. I don't know if Mexico has an easier path for foreign spouses, if they do that's probably her only option.
     
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    History?

    If you want to remain stuck in 1955 be my guest

    But this is 2018
     
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    We have a so-called conservative president that has shown us over the past year what the views of conservatives are.
     
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    Should the absolute strict letter of the law always be enforced?

    Or, if the circumstances warrant, and a legal way to mitigate an otherwise harsh outcome can be found, should it be taken?

    Is there a substantive difference between someone who has lived for decades in this country, having arrived as a ten year old child, and is of good character, versus a violent felon who made a decision as an adult to enter illegally?

    Here's a test case: a woman flees a Communist tyranny, and dies in the process. But her child survives, and is taken to safety in the US, where he joins his relatives who are already here.

    But .... her estranged husband, back in the Communist country, demands the child back. He is the legal father, although she left him -- perhaps he was a brutal Communist apparatchik and she couldn't stand living with him -- so, legally, he is entitled to take the child back. Back from a free society where he would grow up in liberty, to a Communist tyranny.

    But ... the law is the law. Treat everyone the same way and let the chips fall where they may, whether the country the child's father lives in is Canada, or North Korea, or wherever.

    Right?
     
  16. Day of the Candor

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    As I have had it explained to me the first step for all illegals is to go back to the country they are a citizen of and then they can apply for green cards and citizenship and whatever. If they do that fine. If they do not then they are illegal and have no rights in the US at all. Why do all the liberals and leftists conveniently forget that?
     
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    Your did not have the process explained to you properly. You cannot apply for citizenship until you have been a legal resident for 5 years. To be a legal resident you need to have permission to enter our country legally. You do not get a green card unless you are a legal resident.

    You made it sound as if you get to apply for legal entry ( which means a green card) and citizen at the same time....NO,!
     
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    Well then it sounds like these dreamers are going to have a nightmare. I would not object if we allowed them to go ahead and be able to apply for green cards without the waiting period. If they work for 5 years and apply for citizenship they can become citizens. I know they were kids and that is why they should be given some extra consideration. But I also know that their parents broke the law and are illegal aliens. Illegal is illegal so the parents need to get deported, pronto. If the kids are too young to be without the parents they will have to leave the country with them. Hey, the parents decided to break our laws. Too bad.
     
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