Union votes to strike at General Motors' US plants

If anyone wonders why companies move their production facilities overseas, then this story will provide the answer.

If you ask me, it appears the union workers are getting a great deal. If I happened to be the lead negotiator for GM, I'd tell the union that if a strike occurs, then health insurance would be the entire responsibility of the workers and I would stick to it, they could go on that wonderful thing called Obamacare and save $2500 - of course that would an illegal threat, but I'd some how let the union know that's what I'd do if they walked out.

I hate unions.

 

Ford and Chrysler made agreements, odd the only holdout was Government Motors. I guess this is a lesson not to screw investors and buy off union thugs...

 

I have heard the unions add a couple of grand to the price of a new car. I just tried to google it but I guess I don't have the proper credentials.

 

This is why business cannot make us all work 12 hours a day for 6 days a week at $4.50 an hour.

 

I do not belong to a union and make damn good money. The unions have out lived their usefulness.

 

That is your opinion. Prove it.

And: don't belong to a union.

 

Most of what the unions fought for are now federal law, example the 40 hour work week. What the unions continually fight for now are completely ridiculous.
Rush is right, he said the automakers are now a health insurance company that just happens to make cars.

 

Unions are right, Rush is completely ridiculous.

 

In negotiating what you say is not nearly as important as what is your strength position when you say it.

I have some empathy for the union, especially compared to a rat's arse company like GM, but then again, a lot of unions have lead their worker members down into a hell hole because they didn't understand their strength position.

 

Steve, that's why there are labor issues in this country; with thinking like that on your part only goes to exacerbate the issues and instead of working on a way to forge an agreement, management acts like children and make empty threats to the workers. If the company cannot afford what the union is requesting, then they should open up the books and show the union why they cannot afford of what is being asked of them.

Unions don't strike because they enjoy walking a picket line, they strike out of necessity and in the meantime they aren't bringing home a paycheck, so to go without they obviously feel very strongly about the issues at hand.

If you are employed by a company, then you can thank unions for your medical benefits.

btw, "hate" is a terrible word to use; perhaps "intensely dislike" might be more appropriate since hate is the ultimate negative feeling that one can exhibit.

 

I, too, listen to pill-addled mania and buy into it, WOW!

 

He had a problem and got it fixed. Anything else you want to add Mr. Perfect?

I notice you added nothing to refute my post though.

 

Rush's brain has been permanently addled by the pill use.

That is not going to change, or the nonsense that comes from it.

 

And you didn't refute my post either.

You should listen, you aren't scared are you?

 

I despise public sector unions, and have a heavy dislike for private sector.

People's wages should be based on their value in the labor market. That is, can the employer find somebody to do the same job, with the same education and experience for cheaper. If yes, the current employee is overpaid. If no, then they are underpaid.

What unions do is use the threat of shutting down production to extort wages and benefits outside the labor market.

I would let them walk and immediately start hiring nonunion.

 

And those positions would fill quickly!

 

Union Thugs = American workers collectively bargaining.......lol

 

Actually unions help a company keep a efficient workforce that shows up

When a contract is settled there are Losers ( workers that didn't want the contract offered ) and winners workers who are happy with the deal

The union keeps the workers in Line to produce.

Not a easy job. Necessary to have a productive workforce to negotiate a contract with the employer

There are a percentage of waste. Drug users who use the union to keep their job or Lazy workers

Autoworkers make good money and benefits ........... Long Time workers make 6 figures

However mostly it's monotonous work ........... really boring

The prize is a good pension ............. however a prison sentence for most people

 

This union is close to where I live. I don't know much about it but from personal experience Unions are good to workers but one big problem is that they also shelter crappy workers who push the limits and are close to impossible to fire

 

"and in the meantime they aren't bringing home a paycheck"

I think alot of them have some sort of insurance type thing so that they still receive some amount of pay if they go on strike

 

Trump and his supporters want everything made in the US they better be ready to pay for it without so much whining. America has high production costs because it's a wealthy country and wages are predictably high. In addition the US has the highest healthcare costs in the world, a situation Trump and his supporters are fully in favor of.

 

Libs can’t argue on the merits against Rush. They know that they hate him, and name calling is all they have. They are a sad people.

 

You're right, hate is too strong of a word and I rarely use it, so let's say I despise unions.

 

Bringing back manufacturing jobs to America is just a Political stunt.

President Obama was just being honest.............

For 60 years Employers have moved production to countries that pay $1 - $5 a day

As these countries mature they move to cheaper Labor countries.

For over 73 consecutive months their have been drops in Unemployment .............. but not so much in manufacturing jobs

Especially under Trump ....................Facts just erode Political Stunts ...... check out mining stats

 

I manage union employees and it's terrible. The contract with them is 435 pages long, it literally comes in a book. But check this out:

One of my newer employees received recognition from a regional VP who oversees a region with 8,000 unionized workers. The employee asked to never again be recognized because of the backlash he received from the other employees. Making matters worse, the other employees went on a smear campaign against him in order to make him look bad.

The local union president is one of my employees and he picks and chooses who he will and will not defend. His brother is an employee (but not mine) and the guy is useless. Yet the president will spend tons of time and money defending his brother (because of the distance involved even a quick defense is an all day event) all while that same president actually gave me information on another employee which resulted in his termination. I believe that is an NLRB violation and he could have been arrested or fined for it.

Then there are the union tricks like claiming they can't do a particular job because they weren't trained. BS. A few months ago one of my vehicles broke down and the only spare vehicle I had was the exact same as the broken down vehicle except it had an option for 4 wheel drive. The tech said he wasn't trained to drive a 4 wheel drive vehicle and refused. I told the tech not to put it in 4 wheel drive and he still refused, so I sent him home. Yup, the union grieved it and wanted 4 wheel drive training - by a certified professional trainer who is an expert in 4 wheel drive vehicles - to train my entire crew before anyone would be forced to drive that particular vehicle. We told them to pound sand. They wanted to take the grievance to arbitration and during their RFI (request for information) we included the nugget that many of the techs own pickup trucks that are 4 wheel drives, including the tech who initially wanted the training. After spending countless hours going over this situation with company lawyers and providing the union with the makes and models of every vehicle in the region, they finally dropped their threat of going to arbitration, almost certainly because they already drive 4 wheel drive vehicles in their personal lives.

I could go on with union stories for a long time. I've witnessed first hand how they are a cancer for a company in every possible way.

If anyone is interested, here are the salaries of UAW's officers and employees - these people have nothing to do with being productive or building a car. Their entire existence is subsidized off the backs of union workers and their salaries, benefits, office space, travel, perks, etc, are literally built into the cost of a car.

https://www.unionfacts.com/employees/United_Auto_Workers