Up to 3.6 million Dreamers in line for citizenship under DACA replacement

And good riddance to you

 

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.

 

A longer shutdown would have had an effect on most of us.

 

Thank you for making my point.

You are the one peddling racist stereotypes and making blanket claims for which no evidence exists.

And when challgenged, you cling bitterly to your stereotypes and post cartoons.

 

What does? He made it up.

 

100+ billion dollar drain. Every, single year. A wall will help curtail the numbers of those coming in, and those returning after being booted out.

 

I see, because a tiny fraction of Hispanic people are in jail, they are all "working hard at committing crime"

Thanks, for once again demonstrating your racist bigotry for the board.

 

it did meet them. McConnell chose not to use it. Trump agrees, it's all his Trumps fault.

 

not WELFARE

They can't ban them. The states are not violating any laws. There is nothing that can be done about a "sanctuary" city or state.

 

Although there is no real 'flaw' that I can see in anything you've said, I still blame both parties, and for reasons that haven't been at the forefront of the real argument. Maybe I'll do us a favor and not chew all that old cud again... I'm tired of writing it, and you're probably tired of reading it.

Trump. His fans say, "At least he's not a politician!" His detractors say, "He has no political sense!" They're both right. Trump is a businessman of the type I've known well during my long life. A guy like Trump is always going to try to run the government as though he were the chairman of a consortium of corporations under his dominance, and that approach to a 'nine-HUNDRED-headed hydra' like government is always going to be fraught with great difficulty, if not failure.

I doubt seriously that he ever has intended to 'deport' any 'dreamers' in any noticeable quantity, but the threat was all part of a gambit designed to get 'wall' funding in a businesslike quid-pro-quo. It is important, IMHO, to view Trump's thinking and action through that lens -- always the "businessman". Now I could write paragraph after paragraph about what Trump "woulda, coulda, should" have done/do. Again, I'm tired of writing it, and you're probably tired of reading my drivel already.

How could both Trump and the Schumer/Pelosi-led liberal Democrat faction have a 'win-win'?

1. Special 'fast-track' accommodation for the children (and ONLY the children) of illegal aliens, so that they are given work permits immediately, and provided a streamlined, one-time-only pathway to citizenship.
2. No 'DACA' child 'dreamer' gets deported to the country the parents came from, or imprisoned, unless that child has a criminal record involving major offense(s), or, that offspring refuses to comply with the terms by which he/she is given an immediate work permit.
3. 'Chain-immigration' is completely terminated immediately.
4. All (ALL) immigration and/or 'work permit' programs, including "lotteries", involving "diversity" are completely terminated immediately.
5. Funding for adequate, effective control of the United States' borders is provided without the imposition of deadlines. Funding can cover a wide range of border protection methodologies, including limited use of barriers, strategically-placed anti-personnel devices (such as land mines), and armed reconnaissance drones that would be used primarily to assist Border Patrol forces in the interception and interdiction of any invaders.
6. Illegal alien parents of 'DACA children' can apply for citizenship on a one-time-only "fast-track" basis, or they must leave the United States. They must also pay a substantial fine as the penalty for having illegally entered and remained in this country illegally... but they would not face immediate deportation or prison sentences, so long as there are no outstanding warrants for their arrest on criminal charges. The fine would be based on length of time the parent spent in this country illegally, whether or not fraudulent documents were used to get employment or government welfare benefits, and how much wealth the parent has accumulated while illegally in the United States.

Did I miss anything? Of course, I did. But, at least it would solve the greater number of problems. Still, like I said in the last post, nobody gives a damn what a nobody like me thinks about anything. Do they care what you think?

 

Cut off federal funding. That's what I would do. With the massive fires California has had lately, I wonder how Californians would feel if they were cut off from FEMA due to their illegal immigrant / Sanctuary state stance....

 

Can't cut off funding.

 

Yes, it could (and should) be done.

 

It can't be done.

 

Their jail population went up 58% and you call that "tiny"?

Thanks, for once again demonstrating your blindness to the facts for the board.

#schumershutdown, #releasethememo

 

LOL. This is silly. Of course it can be done.

Listen, I'm not going to go back and forth with you here all day long fighting your defeatist attitude. While the people like you throw up their hands and lament that nothing can be done to fix anything, the rest of us can be discussing and working towards solutions.

The illegal immigrant issue can and should be dealt with. But we won't fix it by throwing in the towel and saying it's impossible. There are already several good ideas being tossed around on these various threads. No doubt, these are occurring to politicians as well.

Sorry, but I'm a solutions person, and I'm going to remain optimistic

So go ahead, tell me once more that "nothing can be done!!!!!"

 

it is possible, but not practical to do so.

Ok, you are free to pound your head against the wall for as long as you like. I'll continue living my life, not being affected in any way by illegal immigrants or birthright citizenship. Like every other American.

 

Why would you think that? Welfare or TANF is paid to the states in block grants for the states to distribute.

If they are giving TANF funds out to illegals, then yes they are violating the law and TANF funds can be withdrawn. If illegals kill anyone in a sanctuary city or state and they were in the system like the guy who killed Kate Steinle, but not turned over to ICE when requested then they can be charged as accessory's to murder.

 

your list is ok except for #6

The parents are not entitled to a green card

Time and time again liberals have argued for DACA on the basis that we should not punish the children for the crimes of their parents

So the parents of DACAs are entitled to no special treatment

I would also limit DACAs to those who are already enroll which limits the number to less than 800,000

Finally reduce the immigration quota of the DACA home countries by one for each DACA who gets amnesty

As an example if 500,000 DACAs are from mexico then mexico loses 500,000 immigration visas from their national quota

 

You post data from a white supremacist website relating to 0.13% of the hispanic population, and from that make disparaging, negative conclusions about the group as a whole, and tell me I'm blind to the facts?

I'm not blind at all. I called you out spot on.

 

Because they aren't eligible.

no, they can not.

 

You are paying higher taxes on the city, state and federal levels to support them. Thank you for doing that.


#schumershutdown, #releasethememo

 

I didn't say that the parents should be given green cards, but that they should be provided a fast-track to becoming citizens -- and that they must pay a fine (which could be substantial, especially if fraudulent documents had been used to get employment or welfare benefits).

Some of these suggestions, admittedly, are offered as part of that quid-pro-quo that is a invariably a part of all such negotiations. Each participant must be able to endure some bitterness in order for everyone to enjoy an acceptable portion of 'the sweetness'.

If we Americans hadn't encouraged and enabled illegal aliens to pour in here and work 'on the cheap' starting back in World War II, we never would have had any of these problems in the first place. Woulda-coulda-shoulda. We have to deal with today, and no, I don't like a hell of a lot of it, either.

I wish I could get Trump in a Jeep and drive him (where possible) from El Paso, Texas down to Del Rio, Texas. About halfway through this fun journey he would forget all about building that damn 'wall'....

 

can you show me where on my tax return there is a section for "illegal immigrants"?

 

So you would have no problem with an auditor from the Office of the Inspector General auditing California's distribution of Federal funds?

Of course they can be charged, what statute prevents it?

#schumershutdown, #releasethememo