1. PF has switched to Xenforo. Please see this post for more details. Search and other functions are still being worked on.
    Dismiss Notice

US considering arms sales to Taiwan

Discussion in 'Warfare / Military' started by reedak, Apr 30, 2012.

  1. reedak

    reedak New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Messages:
    2,308
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The administration of President Barack Obama is raising the possibility that it could sell new jet fighter aircraft to Taiwan to help redress the island's air power deficit with China.

    In my opinion, there may be four reasons for the possible US arms sales to Taiwan.

    1. To prevent the US arms industry from going bankrupt. Well, the US could sell the weapons to China instead. By this way, the shares of the US arms industry could even soar through the ceiling.

    2. Those imperialists in the US Congress still harbour the evil motive of adding Taiwan to their territory and could never feel at ease if they don't stir up trouble now and then between the mainland and the island. As I have suggested before, those imperialists can try to move Taiwan bit by bit across the Pacific to the US by digging pails of Taiwanese soil every day and transporting them to reclaim the sea off the American coast.

    3. To use the arms sales to Taiwan as a bargaining chip to force China to halt the North Korean nuclear programme. However, North Korea has been leading China by the nose since the Korean War. Once it senses that China has given up all support to the hermit state, the North Korean regime will not hesitate to invade the South at once, knowing that the Chinese army will never allow the US military to wipe it off from the Korean Peninsula.

    4. To use the arms sales to Taiwan as a bargaining chip to force China to drop its support for Syria and Iran at the UN. If we look at the map of Iran and Syria, we could see the two countries hold more strategic value to Russia than China. Once Iran and Syria fall to the West, elements hostile to Russia can infiltrate the Central Asian states and Russia. Eventually those hostile elements may even penetrate Xinjiang from Central Asia. Whether China will veto any resolution against Syria and Iran will depend on Russia, because it will be foolish for China not to act in concert with Russia in international affairs. China needs Russia as an effective counterbalance against the US not only militarily but also in the international arena.

    What will China do if the US goes forward with its arms sales to Taiwan?

    As usual, we may expect the usual loud screams and protests, and even some naval exercises in the Taiwan Strait.

    In my opinion, such "scream murder" as described by my "sadistic" friend is absolutely useless.

    I have two suggestions which will make the US and Taiwan regret for their actions.

    1. China should consider providing port facilities to Russian warships

    2. China should suspend all trade and economic ties with Taiwan so that the island will not be able to use the money it earns from the China trade to purchase arms from the US.

    There is no point for the US to say any sweet words after hurting others. The future of Sino-US relations is bleak indeed.

    China says it opposes any US arms sales to Taiwan
    http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/china-says-opposes-us-arms-091203760.html

    Taiwan bill introduced in US Congress
    http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2011/09/16/2003513390

    A New Cold War between China and the US
    http://www.eurasiacritic.com/articles/new-cold-war-between-china-and-us

    Moscow: We decided to defend Damascus
    http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/261128

    Russia warns West against attack on Iran
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/russia-warns-west-against-attack-on-iran-1.406756

    The Total Collapse
    http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/

    Map of Iran, Syria and the surrounding regions.
    http://www.atlapedia.com/online/maps/political/Saudi_etc.htm
     
  2. Wolf Ritter

    Wolf Ritter Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    495
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Your understanding of Taiwan-American Relations, Sino-American Relations, the military industrial complex, and the state of the Korea War are hilariously simplistic.
     
  3. reedak

    reedak New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Messages:
    2,308
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Hilariously simplistic? It is exactly the state of the minds of US congressmen, as stated by my idol, Dr Kishore Mahbubani, author of 'The New Asian Hemisphere: The Irresistible Shift of Global Power to the East'.
     
  4. Wolf Ritter

    Wolf Ritter Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2012
    Messages:
    495
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Then your idol is an idiot. That's not how American foreign policy works.
     
  5. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2010
    Messages:
    30,804
    Likes Received:
    243
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How is this any different than any of our other arms sales in our 60 plus year relationship with the government(s) of the island of Taiwan?
     
  6. reedak

    reedak New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Messages:
    2,308
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You must be the genius of geniuses to call a genius an idiot.

    By poking its nose into other nations' affairs, perhaps even under the pants.
     
  7. reedak

    reedak New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Messages:
    2,308
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Taking an analogy, a man recently took over the management of a restaurant from his aged father. The first thing he did when he went to his restaurant early in the morning was warning one of the chefs there not to be late for work.

    Thinking he was indispensable because he was the best chef in the whole country, the arrogant, recalcitrant chef responded angrily, "How is my way of working here now any different than my way of working in my 60 plus year relationship with your father? I was late for work every day in the past 60 years, yet your father didn't dare to utter a single word!"
     
  8. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2009
    Messages:
    26,934
    Likes Received:
    164
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Obama armin' Taiwan to the teeth...
    :wink:
    US Announces $1.8B Arms Sales for Taiwan
    Dec 16, 2015 | WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration announced Wednesday a $1.83 billion arms sale to Taiwan, the first offered by the U.S. to the self-governing island in four years. China regards Taiwan as part of its territory and has said the sale, which was expected, should be canceled to avoid harming its relations across the Taiwan Strait and between China and the U.S.
     
  9. Il Ðoge

    Il Ðoge Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    1,405
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    38
    The dynamic where China pretends Taiwan isn't an independent country even though they've done everything, including military, independently since the country was founded is pretty odd.
     
  10. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2009
    Messages:
    26,934
    Likes Received:
    164
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Mebbe dey gonna quit buyin' our debt?...
    :omg:
    China Threatens Sanctions Over US Arms Sale to Taiwan
    December 17, 2015 - The Obama administration's Wednesday announcement that it plans to sell $1.83 billion in arms to Taiwan has drawn official protest from China, which is threatening arms manufacturers with sanctions.
     
  11. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2009
    Messages:
    26,934
    Likes Received:
    164
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    But would Taiwan be annihilated in the process?...
    :confusion:
    Taiwan arms deal enough to give China bloody nose, but no more
    Fri Dec 18, 2015 - A new U.S. arms package for Taiwan will help boost the self-ruled island's ability to inflict a bloody nose on China in the attempt of an attack, enough to make Beijing think twice before any military adventure.
    See also:

    Exclusive: Japan's far-flung island defense plan seeks to turn tables on China
    Fri Dec 18, 2015 - Japan is fortifying its far-flung island chain in the East China Sea under an evolving strategy that aims to turn the tables on China's navy and keep it from ever dominating the Western Pacific Ocean, Japanese military and government sources said.
     

Share This Page