US drops 40 tons of bombs on IS-'infested' island in Iraq

Lets hope they wetre a lot more damaging than those million dollar missiles we fired at the airfield in Syria.They were less effective than cherry bombs.

 

I'm not against it. I'm just wondering what the US is doing, because ISIS has been wiped out in all the areas under the control of the Syrian government, except for the pockets under US control.

 

Then you're not aware of the constant build up of forces in the Baltics? Anyway my information came from an informative source which as usual I can't find, or I would post it. He didn't say that anyone was going to start a war, but that there were incidents in the past 3 years in Syria and Europe that could have turned into a nuclear war.

As for seeing it, no I'm not in Eastern Europe or in Syria so how could I see it, but there are credible sources who have proven themselves trustworthy.

 

The same folks who are worried about ISIS are the same people who were concerned about the welfare of Saddam Hussein.

 

That is EXACTLY what I mean...thank you. You make a blanket statement as fact, based on something you read from someone you do not know about something he and you have no actual proof of validity concerning. Well....at least its not propaganda this time but willful ignorance.

 

What do you have against Pagans? I've rather liked all the pagans I've talked to.

 

Why wouldn't you use 40 tons of bombs? Doesn't seem like a particularly large amount. If they are stupid enough or don't care enough to have their families with them, sucks to be them.

 

That’s your problem with the Soviets? They were atheists. You have no problem with the KGB? The knocks of terror on midnight doors? The murders of the Romanov family? The forced collectivization? The theft of America’s atomic secrets? The slaughter of the Kulaks? The show trials? The farce of an independent judiciary? The fraudulent elections? Your big problem is they were atheists? A bit shallow, don’t ya think?

 

War is hell

 

20 - 2000lb Paveways.

 

Big badda boom. Lol

 

I could care less about the politics of it.

All i zm saying is that once you pull the trigger there is nothing wrong with obliterating your enemy as fast as you can..
In fact you shouldn't pull the trigger unless that is your plan of action. The reason all these wars are so bloody and so many ci6 get killed is because we are too careful.

Better to blow up a hospital that gets in the way in a war that lasts 6 months. Than to hit all kinds of stuff in a war that lasts 6 years because you are trying to be careful.
Kill your enemies, fast with excessive power are brutality and make your war as short as you possibly can.

 

Did you watch the patterns?

 

What war doesn't involve "barbarity" ?
And that term is so racist? Doesn't it come from "barbarian"?

Yes, the "West", ie the Left, Socialists, Communists focused upon American behavior
and ignored outright Communist barbarity. It's a bit like showing Americans bombing
the Japanese cities, Japanese civilians, Japanese commercial shipping etc. and
ignoring the war and Japan's military behavior.

 

That's why 911 happened. People should just shrug it off.

 

That's of no excuse that Americans were massacring civilians in Japan on a large scale. The Americans even tested their fire bombs on a test site in the US that looked like a city to see how they can most effectively burn civilians alive. Americans became baby killers long before Vietnam.

Do note. When Assad dropped it's bombs on civilians, it was all.... how could they. It's a war crime, etc. And the US bombs the military of Assad. Totally hypocrite when you support and do the same thing.

 

Wisdom is about MAKING DISTINCTIONS.
Assad was killing his own people. America was at war.
In "unlimited war" like WWII there was little ability to separate combatant
and non-combatant.
I notice you don't mention the most recent war where many non-combatants
were killed, and that's Russia's attack on Chechnya and the atomic-bomb-like
leveling of Grozny. When people focus upon America like that, and ignore
similar or worse behavior by other nations or groups (ie North Vietnam) then
I figure it's about politics and not humanity.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think America is the first military power in
recent history to develop military technology to limit civilian casualties.
Israel employs this tech also - its enemies go the opposite direction and
seek to maximize civilian casualties. Both nations face a new kind of
warfare - the TV war. Here the enemy can show what you are doing but
hide what they are doing. North Vietnam and its proxies, Maoist China
and the Soviet Union, were the first to do this.

 

He was killing terrorists.

Pfff... excuses. You can say the same kind of ability is what Assad lacks.

Oh, I'm not ignoring other groups as north Vietnam. But that's rather irrelevant to how the US massacres the Vietnamese citizens on a large scale. People who willfully massacred them, like in Mi Lay or something,.. only a couple of years of house arrest! That's the best the US did against their own soldiers who executed civilians at point blank.

The US killed an equivalent of 10 twin tower attacks in Afghanistan... in 2018.

Israel kills far more civilians that those who are trying to maximize civilian casualties. It's the most condemned nation on the planet. It refuses to let anybody independent look into it's military actions.

 

Here is a classic example of how it works.
Recall the little girl running from a napalm (?) bombing in the city of Hue in Sth Vietnam during
the Tet Offensive. Plastered all over papers and TV. Seared into people's brains. Terrible Americans,
rah rah rah....
Like most Sth Viet cities, Hue did not rise up and support the Viet Cong and the Nth Vietnamese
slash Maoist/Stalinist proxies. A trench was dug down the centre of a main road in that city and
people were butchered or buried alive. A bit like the Katyn Massacre in Poland.
How many Communists were tried for this? How much of this atrocity garnered the headlines
like the little girl did?
Remember how all the world's journalists were removed from Sth Vietnam after they had done their
part in helping Hanoi's propaganda? Tens of thousands of people were then murdered. No Me Lai
style trial. No house arrests. Not even a headline as far as I recall.

It's like Israel - one side condemned for prosecuting a war and the other side lionized for starting
that war.

 

Indeed. They dropped one napalm bomb after the other on a town full of women and children... deliberately... burning civilians alive with chemicals. Americans don't even execute their most terrible criminals like that. Americans convicted over that kind of terrorism: zero. That makes them civilians who got pancaked to death at 911 a rather humane way to die.

We all agreed that ethnically cleansing is bad, as well as colonizing occupied territory. Hence them condemnations against Israel are totally obvious and fair. Nobody is making them Jews do that. They do it by their own free choice.

 

The girl was caught up in the fighting as America and Sth Vietnamese
forces retook the city of Hue.
Certainly the Arab nations colonized the Middle East, frankly I think
they should all go home. There's been nothing but Trouble since the
Islamic/Arabic invasion.

 

The label baby killers does fit. A couple of her family members were burned alive there.
It's a warcrime to dumb an incinerating bomb on civilians.
Nobody got prosecuted over it.

You're deflecting away what the Jews are doing when they are committing a war crime.

 

North Vietnam and the Viet Cong seized the city of Hue.
The murder of so many civilians by them was done with
wire, knives, guns and burying alive.
Those civilians killed by US and Sth Viet forces were
those caught in the cross fire when they liberated the
city.
There's a moral difference you are not appreciating. It's
the same issue with Palestinians and Israelis.

 

Genocide is the intentional effort to destroy all or most of the members of a clearly defined group of people.

How has dropping 40 tons of bombs done that?

 

The US dropped napalm on a city, and so indiscriminate burned civilians alive.
That's a war crime, where you ask for "appreciation".