US is exporting Hate and White Extremism

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  1. Jimbo11

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    What?
     
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    Not stupid at all if one takes the long range perspective. If the liberal/leftest media didn't encourage the floodgates opened to Muslim immigration and actually warned of its potential dangers and incompatibility with secular western democracies, a lot of conflict/terror and wars prevented.

    Both sides are losing this war since there is an incompatibility that can't be wished away.

    The killer in New Zealand made it clear that he has no problem with Muslims living in Muslim countries but wants to help put a stop to Muslims taking over countries like France and other parts of Europe.

    People unwilling to assimilate should not be allowed to move to another country.

    It is rather obvious that many Muslim immigrants do not fit in well in western societies and vice-versa. It has little to do with their brown skin since there hasn't been a huge backlash in the United States against people from India and obviously white/light skinned Muslims have received a backlash as well -- see Boston bombers. Most of the bad situations people from India face is because people mistakenly think they are Muslims. They don't realize in some cases that India has its own problem dealing with Muslim extremism/terror.

    Media has pushed multiculturalism and that is an incredibly dumb idea that has failed and cost countless lives. 2nd generation immigrants when they don't fit in/assimilate cause huge problems. First generation is at least somewhat happy for some quality of life improvements but 2nd generation has resentments and easy to convert to ISIS.

    And assimilating Islam is hard to do since a lot of Muslims do not want to assimilate just like many Jews and Christians would not want to assimilate to life in Saudi Arabia.

    Now the secular west needs to be wise where it has its own faults which it does in the United States especially. Too much drug use, violence and objectification of women.
     
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    His political mentor, Sir Oswald Mosley, was a Fabian, i.e., a "progressive" like you...
     
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    There were fine people on both sides.

     
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    In some ways, without even fully knowing it Trump has become a symbol of renewed white identity -- thanks to liberals media making him one -- but the killer was a left of center eco-fascist that overall didn't like Trump's policies and his activities as a leader. Nothing wrong with whites having identity and being proud of being white/European/German/Irish/Italian/Polish/Swedish et cetera. People should be proud of their heritage/religion and if they are not, seek to reform the group they are with. For example, if you are a Catholic and disgusted with the way priests have sexually abused people, leave the church and join a different church that doesn't have that problem. Trump clearly isn't a white nationalist but he isn't afraid to say what is in the best interest of the people of the United States.

    Over the past 50-100 years, it has become quite clear that some immigrants like from Japan and South Korea assimilate very well but other immigrants because of religious differences have failed to assimilate well. And sometimes it is not just religion but the form of the religion and what the people think of their societies when leaving. Iranian immigrants that liked the shah were much more likely to assimilate well than Sunni Muslim immigrants that just left for purely economic reasons or to escape war.

    Before the days of social media at least, mosques are where a lot of radical Muslims have joined forces with other Muslims and planned terror attacks. Less radical Muslims are a lot less likely to go to religious services. And while many mosques have imams that preach tolerance or at least don't go too far preaching intolerance, many do not.

    Yes, they would never have been killed by an Australian at least if Muslims were not allowed to immigrate to the secular west until Islam reformed itself. How can you be killed when you are not even there?

    Thankfully Saudi Arabia has finally recognized imams preaching hate is a problem and is trying to improve the situation but it will take generations. The decentralized nature of Islam makes it very hard to reform.
     
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    Many of the protesters in charlottsville were conservatives who were not part of the neo nazis or kkk

    They were the good people trump was referring to
     
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    No I can't....maybe you should try the lefts other form of communism they believe in.

    You know the Chinese changed comrade to tongzhi. Better check with Diane Feinstein first. Just sayin.
     
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    Prove it!
     
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    Prove that they were not there. A lot of people have said they were there and are not neo-Nazis or racists but just there to protest removal of statues.

    The media coverage of Charlottesville before the gathering was one of the things that prompted a bunch of good people to go there. There is a lot of people opposed to the removal of the statues including more than a few African Americans living in the south. Plenty of Americans a long time ago were involved with slavery. The north at times had slaves as well.

    If Antifa types didn't show up, there would have been little press coverage and probably no one hurt. (Other than making sure African American communities were protected by the police, not much should have been done in Charlottesville besides let the white nationalists peacefully protest.)

    The good people on the sidelines on both sides were not largely not covered since conflict is more newsworthy. But Trump was certainly right.

    The folks in favor of removal of statues could have had their own gathering/protest on a different day. And the white nationalists should not have showed up on that day.
     
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    Thats very true
     
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    I already did.

     
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    True conservatives in Charlottesville stayed away from that mass of hate. I KNOW THAT. The imported hate was clearly evident on Friday night when the tiki torch bearers on the Lawn spouted their racist rhetoric...THESE WERE NOT FINE PEOPLE!

    Trump will never speak harshly again the white supremacist.....NEVER!

    He knows his base well....
     
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    Your one video is nothing.....nothing.

    Trump knows if he speaks against white supremacy....he will be in danger of losing a large part of his base.

    So....while the world goes more dark as the population in African countries explode..Trump is fighting tooth and nail to Make America White Again
     
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    Well who is supreme.
    The Jews have always been superior to whites, but their numbers are too small.
    The Asian have just caught up, but here again their numbers are too small.
    The whites are going down in school, grades, etc.
    the Mexicans started from zero and surpassed the blacks.
    But that's the blacks own fault.
     
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    How dare you call Trump's base white supremacists.
    White supremacy is the Foundation of the Democrat Party. Perhaps your mad and want them voting Democrat again? You can have them back. They are a small marginalized group thanks to Republicans who ran your racist KKK group out of business in the last century.

    So keep on spreading the fear mongering race baiting hate lies in hope of keeping blacks on the Democrat slavery plantation because I'm telling right now, they are wising up to your BS lies and will leave the Democrat Party which have brought them nothing but poverty, misery, imprisonment, pain and death.

    We know no matter how many times it can be proved the Trump condemned racism and bigotry liberals will continue spouting lies because you have nothing else to offer. You are suppressing black and minorities votes for Republicans with your smears.

     
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    Trump did not classify all of them as fine people. Stop with the alt leftie BS.
     
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    Actually just this past week, Trump once again spoke very harshly against white nationalists.

    I think it’s a small group of people that have very, very serious problems," Trump said Friday. "I guess if you look at what happened in New Zealand, perhaps that’s the case. I don’t know enough about it yet. They’re just learning about the person and the people involved. But it’s certainly a terrible thing. Terrible thing."

    The white nationalists would rather be portrayed as a "large group" of people without any problems at all.

    A lot of white nationalists have moved on from Trump who they only had tepid support for in the first place to Andrew Yang since he is the only one speaking openly about the problems facing whites in a sympathetic manner. I seriously question UBI and think it is a bad idea especially combined with open borders but
     
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    Agreed. The President wasn't referring to the *******s from outside of town. He was commenting on the citizens on both sides of the issue who were exercising the Constitutional rights.

    Apparently the alt-left hates everyone who lives in Charlottesville and believes they are White Supremacists.
     
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    So you think all citizens of Charlottesville are racist white supremacists.

    Ваша функция мозга?
     
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    Well said.

    Kind of easy to tell a true racist.

    Do you support Planned Parenthood without question?
    Are you reasonably intelligent?

    If you answered yes to the previous two questions, you are a racist against African Americans. Planned Parenthood, an organization founded by a racist, is slaughtering African Americans and the liberal media barely ever reports on the racial dynamic of what is going on.

    http://www.blackgenocide.org/black.html

    I have yet to see Planned Parenthood in very rich white areas but they are all over the "inner cities".

    The Democratic party has destroyed the African American family with incredibly bad policies that encouraged the breakup of families.
     
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    And our President is the leading exporter.
     
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    Prove that all of them in Charlottesville were skinheads.

    What, you can't do that?
     

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