US military cites rising risk of Chinese move against Taiwan

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  1. Durandal

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    US military cites rising risk of Chinese move against Taiwan

    The American military is warning that China is probably accelerating its timetable for retaking Taiwan, the island democracy that's widely seen as the most likely trigger for a potentially catastrophic U.S.-China war

    By ROBERT BURNS AP National Security Writer
    April 7, 2021, 10:30 PM
    • 6 min read

    WASHINGTON -- The American military is warning that China is probably accelerating its timetable for capturing control of Taiwan, the island democracy that has been the chief source of tension between Washington and Beijing for decades and is widely seen as the most likely trigger for a potentially catastrophic U.S.-China war.

    The worry about Taiwan comes as China wields new strength from years of military buildup. It has become more aggressive with Taiwan and more assertive in sovereignty disputes in the South China Sea. Beijing also has become more confrontational with Washington; senior Chinese officials traded sharp and unusually public barbs with Secretary of State Antony Blinken in talks in Alaska last month.


    A military move against Taiwan, however, would be a test of U.S. support for the island that Beijing views as a breakaway province. For the Biden administration, it could present the choice of abandoning a friendly, democratic entity or risking what could become an all-out war over a cause that is not on the radar of most Americans. The United States has long pledged to help Taiwan defend itself, but it has deliberately left unclear how far it would go in response to a Chinese attack.

    ... ctd: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-military-cites-rising-risk-chinese-move-taiwan-76917751

    Circling back to the issue of Russia massing troops along the Ukrainian border and the potential for simultaneous aggression by China and Russia, I'll just add that it may or may not be coordinated between the two autocracies. It could be that each is waiting for the other to move first, but that the other is likely to view a move by one as an opportunity to go ahead. This would present a significant challenge to the US and NATO, dealing with not one, but two major acts of military aggression. Especially when both are nuclear powers. I think they're both counting on having enough of a regional advantage to get away with this, and they would both have each other's backs.
     
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    And therein lies the problem with nuclear weapons...you might get away with using them on those who don't have them, on those that do....not so much. I suppose the worlds' forgotten that with some political and military miscalculations....the living will envy the dead.
     
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    China probably feels they have enough leverage with big tech, the media, and our politicians, that the public won’t even hear about for two weeks. Then off to an agreement to shut off one or two coal plants.
     
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    I wonder how public sentiment would be here in the US. How many Americans would support military defense of Taiwan at the risk of nuclear war with China? Ditto Ukraine and Russia?
     
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    Yeah, if anything comes of these potential wars, I'm thinking one war will kick off, then when the U.S. is heavily committed, the second will start. I'm thinking the Ukraine conflict would likely happen first. Hopefully it's all just saber rattling and nothing happens. Time will tell.
     
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    Japan and Vietnam may assist. Too bad the Philippines kicked us out of Subic Bay. China may take the Philippines too because they feel our leadership is so weak.
    I hope Biden will at least have to balls to turn China’s import market to the USA off. Permanently or until the CCP is gone. This could light of WW3.
     
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    Then the U.S. should be building/deploying several thousand ABMs.
     
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    Yeah, this could easily turn into a WW3 scenario if cool heads don't prevail. I think we should have stopped trade with China a long time ago. We've become way too dependent,especially militarily. Russia is smart that way. Almost all of their military equipment is produced domestically. I know a report came out in 2018 saying we were way too dependent on China for critical military parts. I don't know if anything has changed since then.
     
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    Nukes aren’t necessary. We can throw them off their phony islands at any time and sink the reinforcements. If the attack a US sub, that port gets attacked. Serious, but not WW3 but the Chinese economy will stall when we end oil shipments.
     
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    the deteriorating is due to pro-independence party in charge of taiwan, we seen it in 2001, but when the pro-status quo party in charge, the relation between china & taiwan get better, such as in 2010s era. its more due to 92 consensus. also tension between china & US going high doesn't help either.
     
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    we are not depend on military parts from china periods. parts source for DoD, are either made in US or from other allies, minior chips may come from SE asia.
     
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    Well that is good news at least.
     
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    Xi is more of an ethnic Chinese [Han] nationalist than previous leaders.
     
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    pretty sure all previous leader are ethnic Han.
     
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    I doubt that.

    It was the ethnic Chinese Han who suffered under the previous draconian one child law... ethnic minorities were exempt. Xi ended that one child law.

    I can envision similar systematic genocide happening here. White couples restricted to one child [or less] while other races can have [even encouraged to have] many children.

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    :) pretty sure all chinese leader were ethnic han Mao, deng xinping, Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao, and yes ethnic minorities typically allowed for 2 or 3 kids, where the han majority only allowed for 1 kids, this rule was enforce till 2014/15. now 1 child policy is gone, as long as no body birth 5+, they wont get into trouble.
     
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    You might be surprised. Appearances can be deceiving.

    About 85 percent of Russia's first Marxist Bolshevik government was one ethnic group... but it was NOT ethnic Russian!

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    lol sure tell me which one of those chinese leader are NOT ethnic Han with credible proof.
     
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    You're not getting the hint.

    Let me put it this way... Karl Marx was NOT ethnic German.
     
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    Any particular reason why US should go to war with China over Taiwan? ​
     
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    They probably feel now is the time to test Dementia Joe.
     
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    We shouldn't just ignore more than 20 million people in a free democracy and leave them to their fates.
     
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    I can envision the left trying to impose one child law, after all, abortion would make that easy. Just kill anything imposing on that law. This is why we have our second amendment.
     
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    All-out war? Probably not. But, as always, there is always the defense of freedom and containing an aggressive authoritarian power to consider. We went to war with Germany even though it's dubious that they were ever a significant threat to the US. Same with Japan, really, despite Pearl Harbor.
     
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    Germany declared war on us, and were allied with Japan who went to war against us.

    A war with China would cost A LOT of US lives, and for what...? For free democracy in Taiwan? What have we learned about force-feeding democracy to Vietnam, Iraq, etc
     
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