US warship intercepted by Russian Navy while trying to sail into country’s territorial waters, Mosco

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Are you ready for war? Because war is inevitable.
And it's not that these are "bad Russians" or "bad Americans", "bad Chinese", "bad Martians" ... and so on. Match any nation. Nations are not bad.
The thing is that the world economy is bad.
As Comrade Lenin wrote, as long as imperialism exists, the economic basis and the danger of the emergence of aggressive wars remain. The question of conquest and other criminal wars is decided by the financial and industrial oligarchy. Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development when the rule of monopolies and finance capital took shape, when the export of capital acquired special significance, the division of the world by international trusts began, and the division of the entire territory of the earth by the largest capitalist countries ended.
War is the continuation of politics by other means. What is the policy of states and ruling classes, so is the war they are waging.
In the era of imperialism, the main types of wars are:
1) unjust, imperialist wars aimed at the seizure and enslavement of foreign countries and peoples, the suppression of socialist, democratic, national liberation movements...
2) just wars aimed at freeing the working people from feudal and capitalist oppression, freeing the colonies and dependent countries from the yoke of imperialism, and protecting independent national existence from the encroachments of the imperialist powers.
The Bolsheviks, Lenin wrote, have always condemned wars between peoples as a barbaric and atrocious deed.
"Disarmament is the ideal of socialism. There will be no wars in a socialist society, therefore, disarmament will be realized," Lenin wrote.
Many are afraid, do not want a revolution, associating it with violence and blood. Lenin explained that the implementation of the socialist revolution is associated with certain sacrifices, but these sacrifices are a drop in the ocean compared to the seas of blood that are shed by mankind in imperialist wars.

Today the world is close to war. I think that war is more likely today than during the "Cuban missile crisis".
And such provocations from any side can lead to irreparable consequences.
And if provocations occur with surprising frequency and regularity, this can only mean the fact that war is inevitable and not long to come.

 

Imperialism does start wars. Imperialism is national expansion, controlling new territories.. and it causes war. German ambition for new lands (Liebensraum) caused war in Europe in the 1930's. Japanese expansion into China and Indochina did the same in Asia. And you are correct about today. China makes no bones about its expansion in such places as Taiwan. Meanwhile, Russia has established its long sought warm water port in Syria. When you throw America's demonstrated weakness in Afghanistan into the mix, I agree with you. Our enemies may never see us as militarily weak (due to a lack of will, not a lack of might) as we are now. To pass up this opportunity would demonstrate they are negligent. And they are definitely not negligent. War is indeed inevitable.

 

I can only say - Bravo !!!
The only thing that can be added to your comment is that China is not limited to claims to Taiwan. China wants to expand its influence in the direction of Japan and the Philippines, and in a number of other areas.
But it's not just China that wants war. All major players on the world stage want wars. And the world crisis is pushing for this.
Look at inflation in any country - even in Russia, even in the EU countries, even in the United States ... you can take any country.
Inflation is growing and the economy is collapsing.
The population of countries, the bulk of it, falls into poverty. The middle class is shrinking ... while the wealth of the world's richest people is increasing dramatically.
This cannot go on indefinitely. Sooner or later, there will be a social explosion.
And in order to preserve their capital and power, the oligarchs of all countries will direct the anger of peoples against each other.
This has always been the case in the history of mankind.
Governments will declare their people elected, and other peoples subhuman, who are to blame for all the troubles. Simply put, they will play off the nations.
The oligarchs themselves in the war will only increase their capital.

 

Forget Lenin, he managed his evil by killing 40 million Christians, and enslaving Russia for 70 years. There's a new evil and a new world order in the works with the Great Reset and it's a corporate controlled and owned One World Government.

To further destroy small businesses and our individualism which was the backbone of the US, even shoplifting is now allowed in liberal states. Biden and those who control him, are doing everything to enslave humanity by the multinational corporations and those who own them.

Since I'm a Christian, I like to see what the Saints are saying. They said that this year will be the year of 'fear' and now they're saying that 2022 will be the year of wars. WWIII will start with Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear facilities - which according to past prophecies, will be about the same time that Erdogan falls and Turkey attacks Greece.

The real reason for starting WWIII though, will be Islam's creation of their own currency and going off the American dollar.

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I lie and cheat to get my way
for it's a game we like to play
towards infidels like you.

Now don't get mad and be alarmed
for we don't really mean to harm.
It's just that you have got to know,
Islam's the only way to go - Jeannette

 

Interesting comments there, especially the speculation of an Arab currency undermining the US dollar. I have worked with both the Greek and Turkish military establishments and any conflict between them would not end well for the Turks. Even before Desert Storm, we armed the Greeks at levels far in excess of the Turks. I was briefing the Turkish General Staff on Stinger missiles at their Pentagon-wanna-be building (it IS nice though) when an AMerican-built Greek F-16 got into an aerobatics contest with a French made Turkish fighter over the Mediterranean. The Greek flew home while the Turk crashed into the sea.

Any attack by Israel on Iran's nuclear facilities will be quite devastating, but peaceful. They might try their cyber attack again or, just possibly, they will attack with the "CHAMP" (EMP weapons) we have given them. So your prediction could actually happen.

 

If I recall correctly, Sec. of State Blinken gave Israel the go ahead to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities last week. According to the Greek prophecies, (and they've been very accurate), the intent will be to start a war because the Islamic states want to form their own currency and eliminate the American dollar.

What I do know is that Erdogan has been trying to unite the Islamic States, especially in the Far East, and lately Vladimir Putin was complaining about the sanctions and that they're going to destroy the American dollar. Russia will be able to survive, since they've been prepared, but the world will be thrown into chaos. He probably knows something.

 

Bombing Iran's nuke facilities is extremely difficult. They are almost all underground and very difficult to find. Underground facilities are extremely difficult to attack... that's another reason they are PUT underground. That's why attacks to date have mostly been cyber in nature. Although, as I said, CHAMP technology offers a new option.

I doubt your info about Blinken giving the nod to such an attack is true. Biden is a coward who is afraid of violence, even when it means serving up American lives to the Taliban. He runs away, he doesn't fight. And the Israelis have never needed American permission to take military action. They do what is best for their nation, no foreign approval required.

 

Our adversaries are unhappy because China showed itself to be a paper tiger for not taking Taiwan while the press was occupied trying to put lipstick on Biden’s presidency for fumbling Afghanistan. Now the supply chain suddenly takes a dump. Pretty soon Xi Jinping will be going to church.
Russia is emboldened because it controls Europes natural gas, and Germany is flexing its pre WW2 attitude.
Iran is emboldened because Trump is gone and leash is of.
And America is worried about running short of Amazon’s Christmas ticky-tacky.

 

China is primed to take Taiwan now. Before Biden abandoned Afghanistan and our citizens and allies caught there, there was still some doubt about what American reaction would be. Now Biden is a proven coward along with his Generals. It is now that the iron is hot. But it still takes months to get such an operation in gear.

 

I think it should be noted that while China is certainly repressive, it is not remotely as powerful or threatening as the USA. It isn't like China has warships off the coast of America and military bases in Canada and Mexico.

It remains to be seen how imperialistic China becomes as it continues to grow more powerful. It has shown signs of wanting to dominate the south china sea with it's military. But will it be worse in doing so than the USA?

The USA invaded and occupied my native Philippines twice in it's history. China has not done so... Yet.

 

More predictions Jenny. Why let so many other incorrect predictions stop you. Even by your low standards some of these are bizarre.

So, when is this Israeli attack going to happen? A six month range is fine.

And this 'uniting' of Islamic states & new currency? I'll take a year. Do you realize there is already a war going on between Islamic states? Well, several actually. And somehow Turkey is going to unite them and form a single currency. Sure.

 

So we should expect this invasion in the next 6 months? A year at most?

Biden has done more to strengthen anti-China alliances in 6 months than Trump did in 4 years, but I'm not expecting you to either accept or understand that.

 

Please explain how Biden has done ANYTHING to contain China. Please be specific.

 

Happy to, once you give me your timeline for the invasion of Taiwan. Please be specific.

 

You are asking me to predict the future. I am asking you to state something that has already occurred. Does the difference escape you?

 

The post I responded to claimed China was 'primed to take Taiwan', that the 'iron is now hot' and that it takes a few months to organize something like this. That is a succession of questionable factual claims leading to the conclusion that an invasion of Taiwan is close. So, I want to actually make you accountable for your claims and see if your interpretation of the facts is any more than hot air.

If you are confident in your analysis then give is a time frame. A 6 month window will do. If you were just spouting BS that you don't believe enough to predict what you say can be organized in 'months' then just say so and I'll withdraw my request for a timeline AND provide the detail you requested.

This is a credibility test. Predict or withdraw. Easy enough. Thus far you are reacting precisely as I thought you would. Lets see if you can prove me wrong.

 

Okay. I don't like to predict the future (I'm not much with tea leaves, crystal balls or Tarot cards) but let's give it a shot based on historical precedent. First, let's look at historic precedents of events which convinced an aggressor that a significant attack would not be rebuffed. The first to come to mind is the Munich Pact (Sept 193 where the UK Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain signed a piece of paper he flaunted as indicating "Peace in Our Time" with Hitler. History tells us that Hitler viewed this document as a statement of Chamberlain's unwillingness to fight for its Polish ally if Germany invaded. The document was signed in Sept 38 and Hitler invaded Poland in September 1939. Ok, so this historic precedent indicates a year from the key decision point to execution.

In Desert Storm, Sadaam invaded Kuwait in August of 1990. That was the decision point. We moved into place and invaded north into Kuwait in February, 1991. That's about six months.

Joe Biden abandoning Afghanistan was China's "go ahead" signal. That happened in Sept 2021. Six to twelve months later is March 2022 to Sept 2022. There's your six month window.

I continue to understand that you think Biden has done something to contain China. But I note you still cannot NAME A SINGLE THING. You ask me to predict the future and I took my best guess. You are so devoid of FACTS that you cannot name a single thing... not one single thing Biden has actually already done to demonstrate your silly comment that Biden "has strengthened anti-China alliances". You have NOTHING... NOT A SINGLE FACT to back up your ridiculous claim. Nice try to divert though. But it still leaves you with NOTHING to back up your statement. You have no credibility at all... none... nada,,, bupkus... zip. You make statements without any FACTS AT ALL. We get it.

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OK, kudos for actually making a prediction rather than continuing to weasel out of it. You will be wrong, and your analysis of history & present events will be shown to be lacking, but at least you were prepared to make a prediction that can be disproved. That already puts you ahead of Jenny & her Putinistas, though that is a very low bar.

I will be revisiting this thread in about 12 months.

Here is my take.

At this stage there is no indication China is preparing for an invasion. That isn't something that can be hidden. If your predictions are correct we will have a fair idea well before September next year.

China isn't going to invade at the moment because it can't back up an invasion logistically at the moment. It lacks the sealift and the capacity to supply over beaches. China also isn't going to invade because that will crash its economy. Invading Taiwan would not only lead to massive actual & economic damage, it would flatten any industries reliant on semiconductors. Taiwan remains the dominant producer of those.

Even the Taiwanese don't think China is capable of invading for a few years.

Oh dear. Someone is triggered. I said I would provide details when you backed up your prediction, not before.

I am working on the assumption that you will handwave all of this away or play silly internet definition games or somesuch, but I have been wrong before. Rememebr you demended a single example of Biden strengthing anti-China alliances. I have more than one.

First Taiwan itself - April the Biden Administration sent a delegation of officials to Taiwan to emphasise its ongoging support for Taiewanese soverignty & the Taiwan Relations Act - a piece of legislation biden has voted for. In August Biden signed off on $150 million worth of SP artillery and advanced munitions. There are also discussions about speeding up the delivery of the new F-16s.

So, already moves to strengthen Taiwan.

Then there is the Quad - the US/Japan/India/Australia partnership aimed squarely at containing China. This was revived under Trump in 2017, but under Biden it has had its first ever leaders meetings - two of them, in fact - a virtual meeting a few weeks after Biden was sworn in and a face to face meeting in late September. Additionally Biden has sent officials to all three partners to discuss specific ways to strengthen the partnership and has begun discussions with other nations about working with the Quad. Biden has also repeatedly expressed support for Australia in its ongoging trade disputes with China.

So, strengthening an explicitly anti-China alliance there.

Then there is AUKUS, a partnership between Australia, the UK & the US announced in September. This will lead to Australia acquiring nuclear submarines (most likely US ones) and increased tech transfer between the three nations. These subs are explicitly aimed at containing China. The partnership is also designed to firm up a UK presence in the Indo-Pacific. I am not convinced the UK part of this will come to much, but that won't be because Biden didn't try.

So, creating an explicitly anti-China alliance.

Then there was a successful summit between Biden & Sth Korean leader Moon Jae-In aimed at strengthening the alliance between.

Then there was the appointment of an ambassador to Singapore. Trump didn't do that. Just to repeat, Trump did not appoint an ambassador to one of America's strongest & longest standing allies in the Indo-Pacific. Singapore is a regional economic power, the best armed nation in the region (its airforce is the most poweful friendly airforce south of Japan) and is a useful interlocutor with China, with whom it retains good relations. That said, Singapore has no interest in letting China dominate the Sth China sea, is an important player in regional bodies like ASEAN & has close & longstanding defence & other ties with Australia.

So, strengthening America's position in the region.

Biden sent VP Harris & SECDEF Austin to Vietnam to strengthen US ties with that nation. Harris gave a speech denouncing Chinese behaviour in the region. This trip also included a visit to Singapore.

And Biden also persuaded President Dueterte of the Philippines to keep the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA) that he promised to end in 2020. That agreement is vital to the stationing of US personnel in the the Philippines for any length of time (even exercises), and ending it would effectively have ended US military involvement in the Philippines after over 120 years. Obviously the ability to base US personnel in the Philippines is a vital part of any streategy to contain Beijing.

Oh, and Biden has promised millions of doses of COVID vaccine to a number of nations in the region.

There is more, much more, but I've done enough of your research for you. So, not one example of strengthening alliances aimed at containing China, but many.

If China does begin a buildup to invade Taiwan the US will respond with support for Taiwan.

 

Biden appoints.... Biden agrees... Biden says... LOL.... yackety yackety... no SUBSTANCE. Abandoning our citizens and allies in Afghanistan was REAL ACTION.

 

The details of the matter are that the destroyer was launching a helicopter and could not change course. All somebody had to do was explain that

This reinforces my idea that all warships of destroyer class or above should have one bridge officer who speaks the individual languages of whatever nationalities of major countries they are likely to run into. My understanding is that most naval academies have curriculums heavy in languages and well they might. Ships should be able to TALK to each other

The tradition is that warships of varying nations are punctiliously polite in their dealings with each other, as is only common sense when you are carrying the most deadly armament on the planet

 

....and there you go proving me right again. I figured you would just handwave it all away because you can't refute it. Biden has worked to strengthen anti-China forces & regional allies since he became President. Not once, but repeatedly. That doesn't fit the propaganda that you have filled your head with so you dismiss a lengthy post with link after link with a single sentence.

I guess I know not to waste any more time on you. Clearly you have a very poor understanding of the past and the present. We will revisit this in a year when Taiwan will be uninvaded. No doubt you will handwave that away too.

 

I only mention the Saints prophecies that haven't come true as of yet, since there's no purpose in mentioning the past ones - which have all come true by the way. They do coincide with Erdogan's actions in the past months - but how would you know that?

Secretary of State Blinken was in Israel last week and did give them the green light to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities - something Israel has been threatening to do for quite some time now. Other than that, Military war games were held in Turkey 2 weeks ago with nuclear Pakistan.

Erdogan's plans are to unite the Islamic states and people in the Central Asian states and in the Far East such as Indonesia, so they could create their own Nato. If that was to occur, the man power would be equal to that of China.

Russia has Islamic Republics within its Federation and borders the Central Asian states, so it would impose an existential threat not only towards Russia, but towards the Eastern Mediterranean and Syria as well, so Putin brilliantly asked if Russia could join. How could Erdogan say no? Yet if Russia joined, being its most powerful nation they would all end up under the watchful eye and control of Moscow.

What I didn't know though, is that Erdogan wants to form an Islamic currency. This would explain Putin's harsh attacks lately on the West over the sanctions and saying that it's going to destroy the dollar as a world currency.

Anyway, my suggestion to you is to get out of your la-la land, and find out what's really going on in the world.

Dreamland, dreamland,
my very own serene land,
where I am free to only see
whatever pleases me - Jeannette​

 

I think there might be more to it than that. When the US destroyer entered Russian waters, Russia and China were conducting their largest maritime games, and for the first time China was deploying its most advanced naval destroyer.

 

I don't see how launching a helicopter makes it alright. They knew beforehand they could not do that, because that would mean that they were about to breach somebodies border. Indeed they knew, or otherwise are incompetent.

 

The world was much more peaceful under President Trump.