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USA, how freedom can go with forced integration? Civic report on segregation.

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by martin_777, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. martin_777

    martin_777 Member

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    I am always scratching a back of my head, thinking about it. They created laws to force whites to be with blacks, browns, etc, but you can't say "I don't want to be around them", like to have white only state/county/neighborhood/company/school, etc.
    Why it's called "discrimination" and not "freedom"? As being Russian, I personally find a lot of similarities with communist regime, when people were also forced to love the laws, which were very suppressive. In US they are milder though, you can get huge fines, but you will not go to prison or get executed. But the idea is the same - suppression.
    I would call it freedom, if there would be places where whites would be allowed to be only with whites and it would not be demonized. Or places, where whites can be with whoever or places where blacks would be allowed to be with whoever or with themselves only.

    THE END OF THE SEGREGATED CENTURY: Racial Separation in America's Neighborhoods, 1890-2010

    Look at this "All-white neighborhoods are effectively extinct. "



    How great! Looks like they are celebrating "freedom"! They are "effectively extinct". Now we can see what happened with Detroit, South Side of Chicago, parts of New York, like Harlem, Oakland(CA), East Palo Alto (CA), Richmond(CA), etc after blacks & browns moved there. High crime and "white man don't go areas"!

    Here is a good Russian (Google - translated) article about Detroit, with photos and videos, plus other US cities, what happened to them after none-whites moved there.
    And yes, they are "effectively extinct"!!! Hah-hah-hah! :mrgreen:
    Let's celebrate the freedoms! :mrgreen:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6WKMNmFsxM"]A Tour Of Detroit's Ghetto - YouTube[/ame]

    As you see they kept forcing white Americans to live with them for years and they achieved their goals. They simply targeted whites with disintegration using blacks, browns etc. Yes, we are exactly targeted, looks like they decided that it's wrong when white wants to live with white, it was demonized with "racism" and we should be mixed with all others. It's not only in US, it's also in Europe. We have nowhere to run from them.

    I personally find this forced integration as a clear violation of Civil/Human rights and in fact, I call it an act of racism towards whites - whites can't choose to live/work/coexist/be only with whites!
     
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    Interesting. I've been seeing ads on TV for a black dating service and it always makes me go, WTH? Didn't we pass a law that said people couldn't discriminate against people of different races?

    Then I did a little research on blackpeoplemeet.com and found I wasn't the only one who doesn't get it. Of course they get around the law by saying whites who want to date blacks are welcome to join, but I ain't buying it.

    Can you imagine the uproar if you started an all white dating service??

    The hypocrisy is amazing. Reminds me of that old saying, 'what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine.'

    :omg:
     
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    I think soon they will write an article, called "All whites are effectively extinct."
    Forced integration and diversification is a form of discrimination, because they don't let you choose. System treats you like a cattle.
     
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    What happened before forced segregation was a violation of human rights. Forced segregation was a violation of human rights. Why aren't you talking about that?
     
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    I am talking about forced integration. Are you?
    So, you are pointing that one human right violation can be easily replaced on another and everybody should be ok with it?
     
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    Fine, have it your way. What do YOU want? I know what I DON'T want? I don't want a return to the 1950's policies.
     
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    We should treat with respect and dignity both groups, who wants it and who doesn't want it. First of all, there was no poll or vote who wanted to live integrated/segregated and who didn't. Looks like most or even all of white people were ok with segregation, otherwise there would be appraisals, protests among white people. "We want to live with blacks! You are not letting me!" - we would hear, right? Some blacks protested against it, because they wanted to live in a neighborhood, which is nice and clean, unlike their own. Government simply forced it and in favor of blacks/browns. This is was a human right violation. So, it would be fair to put it back just because of that. Also, as a prove that whites never wanted to live with blacks can serve that whites were usually escaping the places or cities, after the blacks started to move in that neighborhood. For many whites it was a personal tragedy, when you had to leave your house , where you lived for many years, due to the black invasion, which started in 50s! And what do we see? Places like Detroit, Harlem???

    Secondly, to resolve this dilemma, we can have states/counties/cities, etc, where segregation is ok and not ok. People will have a choice the way they want to live. I think it would be right to do it in 50s.
    So, let's just be fair and respectful to these who doesn't find forced integration beautiful. And stop calling them haters, racists, etc.
     
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    How would a return to 1950's policies help ME? Those were laws against Black people.
     
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    Use your mind or stop trolling. I've already explained.
    Black will live with black and will have his own laws. If after segragation black will choose to create laws against himself - he is free to do that.:frustrated:
     
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    I would be curious if the government decided to do an experiment and ban non-whites from one half of a highly populated city. Would one half of the city fall into urban decay and chaos, while the other would become vibrant and prosperous? Even if, hypothetically, there were not any significant genetic difference between races, as the multiculturalists claim, there could still potentially be several other reasons why such a divided city would be likely to show shocking disparities between the two sides.
     
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    But it wasn't like that in the 1950s. Under segregation in the 1950's, Blacks didn't live under their own laws. They lived under a dictatorship. Blacks were only free to do what Whites said they could do, which wasn't much.
     
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    There were a variety of laws and it's unclear which laws you were referring to. Now I see.
    I was referring only to segregation, like you live here and I live there.
     
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    I'm referring to Jim Crow laws and restrictive covenants.
     
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    So? Where are we going?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws
    It's mostly about segregation.
    If someone wanted to live apart from you, why they can't???
    Right now it's a dictatorship towards the whites all over the world - we have no right to live apart from you. We have to accept you and if we say "no", then we are da*mn hateful fascists, racists, supremacists, suffering from physiological disorder as "xenophobia", we are nazi, what other stigmas are now created for our suppresion?! What kind of freedom is this?
     
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    It's not called 'forced integration', it's called desegregation. That's because instituting laws that arbitrarily constrain social, political, and economic liberties are unconstitutional.
     
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    Forced integration and forced desegregation are the exact same thing. I've said this many times before but I lived through the forced desegregation, i.e. forced bussing of black school kids into white neighborhoods and into predominately white schools. The outcome was decades of racial strife, racial crime and an uneasiness that still exists in Boston today. That was back in 1973 so we're talking of almost 40 years of racial turbulence thanks in total to forced integration or forced desegregation depending on which way you want to semantically spin the truth. Peaceful segregation is the answer to all our racial problems.
     
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    That's a logical fallacy, complex cause. There are numerous causes for your described racial strife: politic climate, economic conditions, religious philosophy, ignorance, violence, history.

    White and Black are political categories that are arbitrary and useless in a secular society based on personal liberty.
     
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    You couldn't be more wrong as I have experienced the racial tension and racism between myself and blacks on numerous occasions. All those causes you mentioned contributing to racial strife may or may not be the case, but regardless, the fact remains that we'll continue to live with racial strife so long as we keep integrating or desegregating the races.

    Political climate, economic conditions, religious philosophy, ignorance, violence and history will undoubtedly stay with us forever, so segregating ourselves from all of those nasty realisms would seem to bring harmony to our society....doncha think?
     
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    Did I just get Rick Roll'd? :|
     
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    It was dictatorship towards Blacks way before because Blacks didn't have a vote on it.

    Honestly, no society has ever been truly free for everyone, so the last paragraph doesn't matter to me.
     

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