Valerie Plame Wants To Warn You About The Jews JIM TR

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  1. Super21

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    AIPAC.
     
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    Oh I dunno. She did help set up a fraudulent independent prosecutor fake scandal that we are now seeing replicated with the Mueller "Russian collusion" investigation. So I can see her relevance to today. Nice to know that she's outed as an anti-semite.
     
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    Demonstrably the wealthiest foreign lobby in the US.

    The PC press even tries to deflect on this by comparing it with other lobbies, saying that the US receives almost no forign lobbying money from Israel. Of course, this is because it's funded by Jews within the country, making the conflict of interests even more blatant. How would people react if "good American citizens" were funding the Saudi Arabian lobby?
     
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    HAHA, I am one of the few, if not the sole poster, who saw the mansion built by MC Hammer prior to his bankruptcy. I did not enter his gate though. Who do you suppose he intended to keep out with his gate and guard building at the entrance?

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    Here is something about lobbyists.
    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/20...yists-plunges-as-spending-declines-yet-again/

    It is just a tad dated so the number probably grew.

     
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    Why are Jews of America in bed with Democrats?
     
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    Because the Jews and multiculturalism are like cows and milk.

    Multiculturalism is about having multiple ethnic groups living in the same country. Which is the situation that Jews have lived through for 2 millennia. Jews have always been a separate ethnic group in their country, which was clearly distinct from their host. This distinction inevitably lead to frictions and conflicts of interest. That's why the Jews got persecuted repeatedly.

    So Jews associate ethnic purity with persecution, since ethnic purity caused the Jews to be ostracized as an alien other for centuries. Hitler seems to agree with them :

    "For a racially pure people, conscious of its blood, can never be enslaved by the Jew." - Mein Kampf

    Basically, Jews think that a multicultural country would make the people more tolerant of other ethnic groups in the same country, so more tolerant of Jews. Their history is also the reason why Jews naturally sympathize with minorities and are hostile to the majority, since they identify with them because of a similar history. The end game is for every ethnic group to become a minority.

    Of course, this ideology is backfiring horribly for them, since this plan comes down to nation-wrecking, which creates hostility to Jews.
     
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    But jews also piss people off because they are so politically correct and own the fake news, entertainment and banking industries.
     
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    Here's more:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...h-valerie-plames-horrible-anti-semitic-tweet/

    The other problem with Valerie Plame's horrible anti-Semitic tweet

    By Molly Roberts
    September 22, 2017 at 2:18 PM


    Valerie Plame takes part in a news conference in 2006. (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
    Happy New Year! Or not.

    On the first full day of Rosh Hashanah, unmasked CIA officer Valerie Plame tweeted out an article entitled, "America's Jews are driving America's wars." As if the headline weren't bad enough, the essay appeared on a website featuring such pieces as "It's time to re-think David Duke." Its argument mirrored a classic anti-Semitic conspiracy theory: Jews run everything in America, and because of their irrational love for Israel they're running us into foreign conflicts, too.

    It is nigh impossible to argue that the article was anything but vile. It called for identifying Jewish Americans as such when they appear on television (much as, it said, one might affix a warning label to a bottle of rat poison). That didn't stop Plame from trying, at first — protesting that "many neocon hawks ARE Jewish." Finally, she progressed to the last of the all-too-predictable stages of post-Twitter meltdown grief and issued a full-throated mea culpa. She has since deleted her initial tweet.

    It's also pretty clear that Plame's apology was insufficient. Perhaps, as she said, she simply "skimmed" the piece before posting it. But did she make the same mistake with the other anti-Semitic musings she has shared over the past few months? "I never heard this story about 9/11: The Dancing Israelis," reads one.


    More interesting than the painfully obvious, though, is how the second Plame affair played into a broader debate about anti-Semitism in the United States. Conservatives crowed over Plame's fall from grace because her unmasking in the 2000s and her antiwar advocacy in the years since have made her a hero in the eyes of many liberals. In their eyes, the left's favorite member of the CIA had outed herself this time — as a bigot.

    And that proved a point they've long been harping on: When it comes to Jews, liberals are just as "racist" as their neo-Nazi brethren. It didn't matter that the piece Plame shared was written by a right-winger. What mattered was that she shared it. And by sharing it, she fit neatly into the narrative of the intolerant left.

    Even in her apology, Plame claimed she had "zeroed in on the neocon criticism." This criticism, though Plame does not spell it out, centers on the idea that Israel plays an outsize role in American foreign policy. Our devotion to Israel, some antiwar advocates argue, is dragging us into wars in the Middle East. It started with Iraq, and today we risk making the same mistake with Iran.

    Imaginary Jewish cabal aside, it's an argument worth having. There's a powerful lobby for Israeli interests in the United States. It backed the Iraq War in 2003, and it backs an unforgiving stance toward Iran today. Sure, there are other reasons that the United States mires itself in Middle Eastern conflicts, and there are other countries pulling strings with Congress and the White House. There are also plenty of Americans who are uncompromisingly pro-Israel and have never had a conversation with a card-carrying AIPAC member. But when it comes down to it, the vast majority of U.S. politicians will take Israel's side in a fight — and that has ripple effects throughout the Middle East.

    Tweets like Plame's do a disservice to those who want to have a wider discussion about Israel's influence on American foreign policy. There's a difference between well-founded criticisms of that influence and misplaced attacks on the people Israel was established to protect, but the two can often become muddled. Plame didn't so much muddle as come down hard on the anti-Semitic side of the line. Others, whether they mean to or not, hover at the center. Plame made it easier for the neoconservative right to say there's no center at all.

    Plame's missive on Thursday was upsetting not just because of the hatefulness of the screed she endorsed. It was upsetting because it was an extreme example of people seizing on casual, careless anti-Semitism in the service of critiques that might otherwise hold merit. That cavalier behavior only makes it easier for people on both sides of the issue to toss around nasty names and end the conversation there. Avoiding that tendency would be a worthy New Year's resolution for all of us.



    Molly Roberts works in The Post's opinion section.
     
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    This piece from 2015 has more on the dancing Israelis:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ge_history_of_the_9_11_celebrations_meme.html
    Trump Is Tapping Into One of the Oldest 9/11 Urban Legends
    By Joshua Keating
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    Donald Trump speaks during a news conference presenting a model of a proposed design for the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site May 18, 2005 in New York City.
    Photo by Chris Hondros/Getty Images

    Donald Trump believes that the media owes him an apology for criticizing his claim that he saw “thousands and thousands of people” on television celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Center in Jersey City on 9/11.

    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    Via @washingtonpost 9/18/01. I want an apology! Many people have tweeted that I am right! http://wapo.st/1R1siFz
    12:02 PM - Nov 23, 2015
    2,115 2,115 Replies 3,075 3,075 Retweets 4,851 4,851 likes

    Trump’s tweet follows a number of right-wing blogs picking up on the same article, asserting that it contradicts the Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler’s widely-shared debunking of Trump’s claim. It does nothing of the sort.

    This is yet another example of Trump’s revisionist history of his own recent statements. Trump didn’t say that he had read reports of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating the attacks; he said he had seen thousands of them doing so. This seems like the sort of thing people other than him, and apparently Ben Carson, would remember seeing. (Update Nov. 23, 6:02 p.m.: Carson has clarified that he was thinking of people celebrating in the Middle East, not the United States.) Perhaps Trump’s investigators can dig up this footage as soon as they finally get back from Hawaii with proof that Obama’s birth certificate is forged.

    Reports of celebrations in Muslim areas of Northeast New Jersey—particularly the heavily Palestinian town of Paterson—circulated in the immediate aftermath of the attacks. In a Sept. 23, 2001 article, which the Newark Star-Ledger has helpfully reposted today, it was reported that:

    Hours after the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, a story spread across the state: Palestinians in Paterson were celebrating in the streets. Braced for a riot, the Paterson police rushed to South Main Street, the center of the city's Middle Eastern community.
    "When we got there," Paterson Police Chief Lawrence Spagnola said, "They were all in prayer."
    In the ensuing days, the rumor went national, lighting up talk radio phone lines. In the end, it was nothing more than rapid-fire urban myth.
    Howard Stern repeated the reports of celebrations in New Jersey on air, which can’t have helped in clearing things up.

    In the tense days following the attack, there were a number of false reports of Muslims celebrating. In one case, reported by the Asbury Park Press, a group of Pakistani gas station attendants sharing birthday cake given to them by their Jewish boss on the morning of the attacks—unaware that the attacks had taken place— set off a panic in the town that included calls to local radio stations. A similar debunked story about a Budweiser employee pulling the company’s products from a gas station because he saw Arab employees celebrating was a popular e-mail forward at the time.

    One strange cousin of the “celebrating Arabs” meme was the strange tale of the “dancing Israelis.” During the attack, a New Jersey homemaker with a view of the twin towers called the police and the FBI after spotting a group of men who appeared to be filming the attack and exhibiting “puzzling behavior.” "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me,” the unnamed witness later recalled. The men were Israeli employees of a Jersey-based moving company and accounts at the time stated they had been on the roof of their company’s building, though it was later reported they were on the roof of their van. Either way, five Israeli men were later arrested and interrogated for several days before being deported back to Israel. As ABC reported the following year, the men were investigated by U.S. authorities for connections to Israeli intelligence, but nothing was ever proven. (The lack of evidence hasn’t stopped the “dancing Israelis” from being a fixture of 9/11 conspiracy theories, particularly anti-Semitic ones, ever since.) The men later denied they had been celebrating, claiming they were just filming in order to document the event.

    All major terrorist attacks, including the recent one in Paris, are accompanied by a great deal of unsubstantiated rumor and false information. That was even more the case for 9/11 thanks to both its size and how relatively little public attention had been focused on the al-Qaida threat before it happened. It was a confusing couple of days and a lot of mysteries still remain, but we can be confident in saying that Trump did not personally witness thousands of Muslims celebrating in New Jersey or anywhere else in America.

    Joshua Keating is a staff writer at Slate focusing on international affairs.
     
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    Here's more:

    http://thehill.com/policy/internati...-valerie-plame-resigns-from-ploughshares-fund

    Valerie Plame resigns from Ploughshares Fund after tweeting anti-Semitic article
    BY MALLORY SHELBOURNE - 09/24/17 04:31 PM EDT 72
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    Valerie Plame resigns from Ploughshares Fund after tweeting anti-Semitic article
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    Former CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson on Sunday announced that she has resigned from Ploughshares Fund after she tweeted an article that argued American Jews are pushing for wars in the Middle East.


    Her announcement came amid a string of tweets in which she apologized again for sharing the "deeply offensive" article, which she described as having "anti-Semitic tropes."

    “Actions have consequences, and while I have been honored to serve on the board of the Ploughshares Fund...to avoid detracting from their mission, I have resigned,” Wilson said in consecutive tweets.

    “I take full responsibility for my thoughtless and hurtful actions, and there are no excuses for what I did.”


    Ploughshares Fund, where Wilson has served as a board member, issued a statement condemning Wilson’s original tweet of the article, which came from an online magazine called The Unz Review.

    “Our board member, Valerie Plame Wilson, seriously erred in retweeting an anti-Semitic article from The Unz Review,” the organization said in a statement on Friday.

    “Ploughshares Fund condemns in the strongest terms what we believe to be white supremacist and anti-Semitic propaganda espoused by this site. The prejudices promulgated by this site are an affront to American values and human decency.”

    Wilson on Sunday referred to her posting of the article as “a grave mistake” and vowed to “avoid resorting to stereotypes to express my positions” in the future.

    Wilson initially defended her retweeting of the article, urging Twitter users to read the post and “put aside” any biases.

    She later apologized, saying she “messed up” and had only “skimmed this piece.”

    The article argued that American Jews are specifically pushing for war with Iran by drumming up the threat the nation poses to the United States. It also contended that the neoconservative foreign policy establishment is beholden to American Jews who are attached to Israel.

    TAGS IRAN VALERIA PLAME WILSON
     
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    My guess is that she will end up blaming the Jews for this!
     
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    Don't they own the fake news media?
     
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