Oh gotcha. Yeah, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. We just shake our heads and laugh when he bitches that he doesn't have any money. Too bad, so sad. Get another job. (He's 23)
We workout with a trainer and do what she says! Seriously, though, she's all about muscle confusion, so we're always doing something different. Leg day, core day, arm day, cardio day... etc.
Someone here drank the liquid in one of these vapes and died. Authorities responded by asking themselves if they maybe should outlaw vaping. Lolz. MP:s just hate it when people are having fun and do all it takes to ruin it; tobacco tax, alcohol restrictions, drug laws etc etc. I do not think vapes are banned (yet?) though.
I think most of us are aware of the Big Tobacco Play-book. If you are not aware, check out the movie, The Insider with Russell Crowe and Al Pacino. Tobacco industry has been genetically enhancing tobacco for decades to create an addictive product. (Big Marijuana is following the tobacco play-book now). However, nicotine is NOT caffeine. It is an addictive substance.
The taxes are not meant to be punitive as much as they are meant to reimburse the community for the cost imposed by users. ERs, law enforcement, medical, etc.
Barely. Compared to living in the Rockies, sure, but vaping in the Rockies is better than just walking around LA.
With respect, you're fighting last century's war. Vaping was the biggest threat possible to Big Tobacco and what did the authorities do? Moved to protect their commercial benefactors. Why? partially because smoking is a revenue raiser and partially because of the massive hit to the pensions algorithms if people actually stopped smoking suddenly. It was certainly a potential black-swan event for the pensions industry and for both governments and financial institutions it had to be slowed. Hence the misinformation and counter-logical regulation. This all played into the hands of BT which also needed to desperately adapt to the new paradigm. The fact that there is anyone on the planet still smoking today is the direct and intentional result of this attack on the emerging vaping technology.
Is it possible to have vaping that has NO nicotine? I gave up smoking 40 years ago but I STILL sometimes miss the pleasure of seeing my breath and holding something in my mouth.
Unless you're getting juice from some Chinese toxic waste dump, all the things in vape juice are things you ingest on a daily basis. There are morons who misuse everything...they're irresponsible people. I remember reading a report that talked about the "trace amount of carcinogens" in vape juice. Frickin potatoes contain trace amounts of carcinogens. The very air we breathe contain trace amounts of carcinogens. The attacks on the vape industry are driven purely by a terrified tobacco industry.
Yes. In many delicious flavors, even tobacco flavored. I've got a 3mg chocolate cheesecake in mine right now. It's amazing.
The National Institutes of Health... oh yeah, I remember. The same people that said Chemo-therapy was effective against all kinds of cancer, everybody that had cancer was getting it, then it turned out Chemo is only effective in dealing with two specific types of cancer, not the 57 they mentioned.
I vape. I used to be a heavy smoker and ever since I took up vaping years ago I can say for certain that I THINK it's better for me. I feel completely different now, I can breathe, taste things, and just overall feel much better than I did when I smoked a pack a day. I also vape this thing way more often than I ever smoked cigarettes mainly because for one I can do it indoors and two it's basically a battery powered cigarette that for all intents and purposes never runs out. Although I inhale about 100x more vape smoke than I ever did cigarette smoke I still feel much better than I ever did while smoking. I always joke and say in 10 years or so I'll be on the couch watching TV and see a commercial come on saying "Did you or your loved ones use electronic cigarettes or vapes? If so please call the law offices of Johnson and Smith, new studies have shown that vape is in fact not a safe alternate to cigarettes and you probably have a brand new form of terminal cancer and are going to die, soon". LOL These things just haven't been out long enough to see the long term effects they have on people. They claim to be safer than cigs but they also haven't been out long enough to see if anybody is going to die from it yet lol. I think they should be regulated in public places not because the vape smoke is harmful to others (its just water vapor) but because as with anything human beings in society are just self centered and have to be forced to have common courtesy in the form of laws because people in general simply aren't mature enough to have common decency on their own. I vape in public places sometimes but rarely does anybody ever know because when in public around others I will vape then hold the smoke inside until it dissipates so as to not blow smoke out and disturb those around me. Other folks I've seen just have no problem whatsoever with taking a nice deep vape hit and blowing cumulus clouds all over the place which is simply rude and distasteful then getting into arguments with those around them who dare say something about it. If folks simply had common decency then we wouldn't need regulations on things like this, but since most folks don't, businesses in society are forced to ban such things in public.
First, Big Tobacco is in on the Vape business - not in competition to it. Their traditional market is shrinking and so they have jumped in to vape and MJ in a huge way. They are marketing both is the same way: "It's good for you". Second: Vape juice does not have to come from China to be dangerous. The issue is not carcinogens. Everyone knows that diacetyl causes popcorn lung; so why is it allowed in vape juice? Diacetyl is added to "e-juice" liquid by some e-cigarette companies to complement flavorings such as vanilla, maple, coconut and more. So while diacetyl was swiftly removed from popcorn products since it could cause this devastating disease among factory workers, e-cigarette users are now directly inhaling this harmful chemical into their lungs. In fact, researchers at Harvard found that 39 of 51 e-cigarette brands contained diacetyl. The study also found two similarly harmful chemicals—2,3 pentanedione and acetoin—present in 23 and 46 of the 51 flavors it tested. And roughly 92 percent of the e-cigarettes had one of the three chemicals present. http://www.lung.org/about-us/blog/2...k-ecigs.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/ If someone wants to vape, none of these facts mean anything. If they had a crystal ball and could see their future living with diseases that could have been avoided, maybe even that would not change their mind.
Caffeine is also an addictive substance. I go through withdrawals (headaches) if I don't get a cup of coffee by about 10 am (or an hour after I wake up, if I wake up late) http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scien...-brain-becomes-addicted-to-caffeine-26861037/
I used to be addicted to coffee. But now that I'm retired not so much. I just drank less and less. Now it is a cup or two a week maybe.
I've thought about doing that, but I can't figure out a good reason why, other than general principles of not wanting to be addicted to something. I enjoy my morning coffee.
I think vaping can be a good solution to those who object to inhaling raw smoke. I say let everyone do what they want.
I believe that MJ vaping systems were available before this sudden proliferation of tobacco vape systems.
Maybe, I dunno. I'm not a customer. But 30 years ago or more, there was a rumor that as tobacco lost market, they were preparing for the legalization of marijuana. It is a logical step.
I generally agree however, 'logical' is not (IMO) given very much weight in the decisions of our politicians and law makers. A simple law that would make it legal to grow but not sell seems logical to me.
