Vax - I trusted the government, now I'm abandoned!

‘They say it’s stress’: Sydney woman seeks answers to migraines and tinnitus, six months after Pfizer

“I got the vaccine because I trusted the government, the state and federal politicians, the chief medical officers."

“They shrug their shoulders and say it’s stress”

“It just breaks my heart how we followed all the rules, we listened to what the government said – now we’re asking for help but we’re (called) anti-vaxxers."

I was crying every day because I was in pain. I have severe neck pain and pins and needles running through my arm, my fingertips are freezing cold.

“GPs can’t provide you any answer because they just follow the guidelines provided by the government.

While health authorities including the US Centers for Disease Control and Pfizer itself have denied any causal link between the vaccine and neurological symptoms like those experienced by Ms Lenarczyk, some experts have called for more investigation.

Last week, vaccine researcher Gregory Poland from the Mayo Clinic told MedPage Today he had developed life-altering tinnitus soon after receiving his second dose of Pfizer a little over a year ago.

six months after her Covid-19 vaccine says she feels abandoned by the government and the medical community.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...r/news-story/03cb54afd06b6f785b762f9c1a15aa1b



Do we abandon all the people whos lives this experiment destroyed?
Its ok to democratically kill and maim one group of people to protect another group? Then abandon them? Seriously?


Ms Lenarczyk, who fears she may have to give up her “dream job” due to her ongoing health problems, has spent close to $4000 on out-of-pocket medical expenses for specialist appointments, tests, scans and medications and still “no one knows what to do”.

 

Koko, what do you think happens to people that get sick and/or injured from any vaccine, medication, intervention and/or surgery?

 

Any major symptoms usually start after the second dose, not the first.

This can seem non-intuitive to many people, but then you have to think why are two separate doses at different points in time required in the first place.
The first dose gets the immune system primed to a response in the future, and then the immune system reacts and goes haywire to the second dose.
(This may seem like a strange thing but it's normal and common for anyone who studies immunology or allergies)

Think about all the symptoms, some of them long term of permanent, that can result from autoimmune diseases. It can be a similar effect when some people's bodies react badly to vaccines.

 

So this one person has run what appears to be the entire gamut of modern western medicine in an attempt to diagnose her symptoms e.g. 'GPs, ENT, audiologists, immunologists, neurologists, X-ray, CT scan, an MRI etc etc but does not have a diagnosis? And none of the clinical specialists she's seen are prepared to confirm her vaccination is the root cause of her symptoms. And this 'frustrates her'. The implication in the article being that the woman concerned has already made up her mind up that the vaccine was responsible and simply want's her opinion confirmed. Total lack of evidence this is the case be dammed?

The article openly states there is no proof that the vaccine was responsible. It might have been, it might not. End of story. But one one lone account of potentially totally unrelated symptoms out of the hundreds of millions of vaccine recipients who've reported no adverse reactions? Proves NOTHING.

 

Would you be so kind as to point out in my comment where I said this proves anything?

And/or, maybe the part where I commented on the subject of the linked article at all?

 

I have already told you all our story but I'll say it again for anyone that may have missed it....

My girlfriend got the first shot and she was fine she got the second shot in her arm swelled up like a baseball and then she immediately got a sore throat and a lump began developing that was about a year ago, she just had to go through 9 weeks of radiation and chemotherapy. Cancer in her lymph nodes of her throat.

Radiation 5 days a week chemo one day a week. The radiation burned her throat up so badly, at one point she could barely swallow water could not even think about swallowing food of any sort. She had to have a surgery to put a feeding tube in her stomach about 7 weeks ago and she'll still need that for who knows how much longer until her throat begins to heal.
She will have a follow-up in a couple of months and we hope and pray that's the end of it.

Now is there evidence the vaccine caused her cancer? Maybe not something that would satisfy some sort of medical scientific doctor or whatnot but if you ask me if it did not at least trigger the cancer it's an awful damn big coincidence.

She was otherwise in perfect health. So you will have to forgive me if I remain skeptical of this vaccine.

 

Sorry it was meant to be linked to the post above yours.

 

No problem.

@Kokomojojo, post #7 was intended for you.

 

Let me guess she has a “Go fund me” page/cynicism

Remember too that Australia, unlike America has a UHC so for her to be that much out of pocket sounds a little……..

 

care to rephrase that, stated as is there are 5 different answers

 

Then list them

 

Give it your best shot, Koko.

 

Australia, through The TGA is tracking all vaccine adverse reactions and like the USA it is a self reporting system where anyone can enter data
https://www.tga.gov.au/reporting-suspected-side-effects-associated-covid-19-vaccine

Australia has a high vaccination rate so this represents millions of doses given plus there are similar reporting systems in other countries, so the combined database is massive.

 

I think they got sick and/or injured from a vaccine, medication, intervention and/or surgery.

 

Koko, let's start with that. The person "X" is already sick and/or injured from some type of medication or medical intervention.

What do you think happens to/for them after that point?

 

if she is telling the truth, it's sad, but it can happen, just like people allergic to peanuts, the peanuts were along for the ride, but the bodies immune system got confused, and the peanut became the enemy

the body's immune system could somehow fail and turn on the body vs the intended target, our immune systems are not infallible

if she is really a vaccine researcher, she should know this though, so this may also be political, or the opposite of the placebo effect, no way to know

let's see her "research" and her prior medical records, was she pre\diabetic .... put it all out there

edit : "A Sydney finance worker"

looks like she was not a vaccine researcher, that quote was from someone else

 

Correct. People get cancer every day. And almost everyone who gets cancer was vaccinated. That is unavoidably true if almost everyone is vaccinated.

No it's not. It is going to happen at least thousands of times.

Your gut feeling is irrelevant.

 

Biden, the guv, indemnifies themselves then issues a mandate for people to either get a jab or lose their job in an effort to exacerbate the their preexisting conditions forcing them into an untested clearly dangerous vax experiment which they shoved up their asses under the emergency act to legally murder or maim them.

You really should simply make your point.

How come every nurse in the clinic that had every jab the guv demanded as soon as it hit the streets had covid no less than twice including my doc? What good is the vax if you get covid and die or your life is destroyed anyway?

 

its a long proven 'fact' that vax's dont work for their intended purposes. First off by the time they make it and it becomes available the greatest damage has already been done!

 

So it's just a giant coincidence that she displayed a classic immune response IMMEDIATELY after the second injection and the cancer was located in her LYMPH nodes? Do you think the arm immediately swelling up like a baseball sounds like an immune system reaction to you? Do you think it's normal to develop a sore throat immediately after the vaccine, followed by a lump?

Of course you vaccine faithful would refuse to even CONSIDER any connection there.

 

Well I'm not against all of them but I won't trust this one as far as I can throw it and I have damn good reason to feel that way.

 

No, it's a minor coincidence. It is guaranteed to happen given hundreds of millions of doses. Many of those people were going to get cancer. The vaccine has nothing to do with it.

The proof is that we don't see millions of cancer cases. If the vaccine were the cause, we would see many millions of cancers from it by now. And it would be undeniable.

This is child's play for actual scientists. Listen and learn.

 

I did not say it's common. And you can sit there and say all you want oh it's just a rare occurrence but guess what when it happens to you or someone you love it's extremely significant.

I don't think your attitude would be as blasé if it affected you directly.

I do not believe in coincidences everything has a cause in this world. Perhaps you could listen and learn something?

You know one thing you have in common with me? You are not a medical professional so neither one of us can say it was certainly the cause or it certainly wasn't.

You can believe in The "coincidence" angle all you want. So tell me this... What do you think the arm immediately swelling up like a baseball after the injection and developing a sore throat and a lump mean?

 

It never ceases to amaze me that only right wingers have all of these alleged "horror stories" about the vaccine; especially given how rare it is to have even a significant reaction at all.

That math says it isn't possible. And math works

It didn't happen.

 

Of course, it's much easier to just sit there behind your computer screen and call me a liar then to explain what the hell happened.

I wondered how long it would take one of you to come along and call me a liar. And you win the prize.

Now why don't you try actually answering my questions?