Video shows Venezuelan fighter jet 'aggressively shadowed' U.S. aircraft, Pentagon says

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1032151

    I wonder if maduro is ready to start losing the airplanes for which he still owes money. Venezuela should realize that such aggressive behavior can result in some losses.
     
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    And i wonder what the US has lost all the way down there near the border of Venezuela in the first place with this plane.
     
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    Maduro probably doesn't care....he figured the "Wagner's" have his back!! Little does he know...lol.
     
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    Venezuela has fighter planes?

    Why do I picture snoopy vs the Red Barren?
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    The plane was in international airspace. The rest doesn’t matter.
     
  6. Thedimon

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    Venezuela has 23 SU-30s and 16 F-16s.
    Not exactly the quantities to have when trying to get into dick-measuring contest with the United States. We can wipe all those toys out with one blow.
    It’s even funnier to think that Maduro risks this pricey hardware while most of his people were loosing weight in the last several years. Maybe he should sell the planes to stabilize the economy before we blow them up?
     
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    pretty sure you wouldnt say that if the chinese or russians send a fleet in international waters just off the coast of NY or LA
     
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    The Russians fly recon and bomber flights right up to our borders all the time.

    The Chinese and Russians are routinely causing near collisions in the Med and S. China Sea.

    Neither of these things are news. At least not until someone gets too close like what happened several years ago when a Chinese MiG hit one of our P3s.
     
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    you call the med and south china sea your border ? thats a impressive area, when did they last fly arround the east or westcoast or mexican gulf
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/freebeacon.com/national-security/silent-running/amp/

    First case that showed up, though I'm sure they both routinely have subs off both of our coasts. The thing about submarines is that they dont advertise themselves. Once found, they are actually very easy to kill.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...s/russian-bombers-alaska-intercept/index.html

    And a very recent case of Russian bombers flying along our territory. It's common and really not all that newsworthy.
     
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    The the Air Defense Identification Zone Air Defense Identification Zone does not apply to military aircraft and the zone is not US air space

    But as you say, neither the event in the OP or your examples are newsworthy
     
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  12. Thedimon

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    Russian planes fly off the coast of Alaska and California a lot. ;)
     
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    Well, they have su-35s. I guess some might call it a fighter plane.
     
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    If ruskies are flying off the coast of L.A. that's a matter for Mexico nit the USA.

    L.A. is the Capital of the Third World and has been under Mexican occupations for a few decades now.

    AOC represents low information voters in N.Y. and approves of any current or former socialist flying off of N.Y.
     
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    And I wonder if there is a single normal American who gives a crap about who the president of Venezuela is.
     
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    There are those who do....considering those approx. 4 mln displaced VZs find their way through Central America, Mexico.....and finally US.

    Putinka should take in VZs....but VZs would end up freezing to death....in October, in Moskolia.
     
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    Ok Wolfowitz Jr
     
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    According to a June 2018 report by the Government Accountability Office, the program had 111 category 1 deficiencies on the books in January 2018. By May 24, 2018, that number had decreased to 64 open category 1 problems out of a total 913 deficiencies.
    • The F-35’s logistics system currently has no way for foreign F-35 operators to keep their secret data from being sent to the United States.
    • The spare parts inventory shown by the F-35’s logistics system does not always reflect reality, causing occasional mission cancellations.
    • Cabin pressure spikes in the cockpit of the F-35 have been known to cause barotrauma, the word given to extreme ear and sinus pain.
    • In very cold conditions — defined as at or near minus 30 degrees Fahrenheit — the F-35 will erroneously report that one of its batteries have failed, sometimes prompting missions to be aborted.
    • Supersonic flight in excess of Mach 1.2 can cause structural damage and blistering to the stealth coating of the F-35B and F-35C.
    • After doing certain maneuvers, F-35B and F-35C pilots are not always able to completely control the aircraft’s pitch, roll and yaw.
    • If the F-35A and F-35B blows a tire upon landing, the impact could also take out both hydraulic lines and pose a loss-of-aircraft risk.
    • A “green glow” sometimes appears on the helmet-mounted display, washing out the imagery in the helmet and making it difficult to land the F-35C on an aircraft carrier.
    • On nights with little starlight, the night vision camera sometimes displays green striations that make it difficult for all variants to see the horizon or to land on ships.
    • The sea search mode of the F-35’s radar only illuminates a small slice of the sea’s surface.
    • When the F-35B vertically lands on very hot days, older engines may be unable to produce the required thrust to keep the jet airborne, resulting in a hard landing.

    Nothing a few more billion dollars can't fix.
     
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    The US "escorts" airplanes out all the time who come near their airspace.
    But when they get escorted out... they cry their little eyes out. lol
     
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    I never said they entered our airspace. I said they came near our airspace.

    We are agreed on their newsworthiness.
     
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    Because you can't spell "baron"?
     
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    What is his position of Open Boarders?

    But, back to topic, since there is a shortage of Kulaks, Trotskyites, counterrevolutionaries and Jews, Maduro spends millions to rewrite history — and wrongly blames Trump for Venezuela’s collapse.

    Amid the worst humanitarian crisis in Latin America’s recent history — with widespread shortages of food and medicines, and millions fleeing the country — Venezuela’s dictatorship is hosting an international meeting of radical leftist movements “to show the achievements of the Bolivarian Revolution.”​

    This is not a joke.​

    Well…
     
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    Both of Trump's predecessors put sanctions of some sort on Venezuela. He just followed their lead.

    In a way it is comical that the US efforts against Venezuela have failed so far.
     

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