Volkswagen and Philadelphia cream cheese ads banned over gender stereotypes

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Welcome to the world of government censorship and advertisement by government committee approval. A few sacked out people complain about an ad and it gets banned and for absolute petty reasons.

    "An advertisement juxtaposing male astronauts with a woman sitting by a stroller, and another depicting two hapless dads, are the first casualties of a British ban on gender stereotypes in advertising.....

    .......The Volkswagen commercial shows a number of primarily male people taking part in adventurous activities — two male astronauts in space, and a male athlete with a prosthetic leg doing the long jump — before cutting to a mother sitting on a park bench next to a stroller. It prompted three complaints from viewers, and the ASA found it showed a woman "engaged in a stereotypical care-giving role.""

    So a mother with a stroller is offensive now? To THREE people. It's only OK if it is a man minding the stroller?

    "A second commercial for Philadelphia cream cheese showed two dads looking after their children at a restaurant with a conveyer belt.

    The men become so distracted by the food that they lose sight of their babies, who end up circling the restaurant on the belt. "Let's not tell mom," says one, after rescuing his child. Over 125 viewers complained.

    "We acknowledged the action was intended to be light-hearted and comical and there was no sense that the children were in danger," the ASA said in its decision.

    "We considered, however, that the men were portrayed as somewhat hapless and inattentive, which resulted in them being unable to care for the children effectively," they added. "We did not consider that the use of humour in the ad mitigated the effect of the harmful stereotype.""

    Does if have to be women in the ad for it to be OK. Maybe a man and a woman would make it OK? Or you just cannot show funny things anymore? Is this going to be expanded to movies and TV shows? No more Dumb and Dumber movies?
    The UK now how long before this is attempted in other countries?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/14/...d-gender-stereotypes-scli-gbr-intl/index.html
     
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    L.O.L.

    No, that is a stereotype too - that a family can only consist of a man and a woman. :lol:
     
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    And the UK is part of the free world?
     
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    I don't get why you are saying it was government censorship if the ads were cancelled due to response of the public???The ads lacked universal appeal......so they were cancelled.
     
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    THREE PEOPLE represents "the public". It's a government agency ordering them pulled. So if it was a man sitting on the park bench with the baby carriage that would be OK, they can only show men carrying for babies since women are the primary caregivers? How does that make sense. And they can only show dufus mothers in a funny commerical because we all know only men are dufuses so we can't show that?
     
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    What government agency???Where's the evidence??
     
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    Amazing.
     
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    Those complaining should know that milk only comes from female cows. They should have to drink what comes out of a bull, who identifies as a cow!
     
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    LGBTQ cows. Lol!
    This is ne of the main things that drove me to the right. It wasn't enough to get gay marriage, we now hve to LIKE IT! And like all other gender nonsense.
     
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    Screw all this, stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. They are mostly true.
     
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    In one sense, this is funny.
    But in another it's terrifying.
    This is the way Western culture is going -- and in America, as the leader of the West, it's going at an accelerated pace.

    Note, that this insanity is not as the result of huge popular demand.

    Now project this kind of craziness forward 20 years. What wil America look like then?
    Will it be illegal to buy a toy gun for you 6 year old boy? Or a doll for your daughter?

    We may laugh, but what was seen as illegal and immoral the day before yesterday, became tolerated yesterday, celebrated today and will be compulsory tomorrow. We'd got to get out of this madhouse.
     
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    Westminster nations have been into censorship for decades. In Australia for instance it has been illrgal going back to the 70s to utter speech which is reasonably likely to cause offense, humiliation or insult on the basis of race or gender.

    We find out someone has been tried after it happens because gag orders make it a criminal offense for the media to report on their case.

    I am not a rich man, lower middle class I'd say, yet some portion of my pay is being pilfered to pay for state propaganda on gender and race.

    Not only that, it is often deliberately anti-scientific propaganda.

    Americans, do not go down this route. Preserve your freedoms.
     
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    Gotta love Nanny States
     
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    Op did not bother to provide any link to any of his claims.
    Who cancelled? when? Was there such a commercial?
    So it all looks like one big fake thread that needs to be removed.
     
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    If it were just a well-meaning old Nanny, making sure you ate all your vegetables and drank all your milk,
    that would be one thing. Annoying but you could survive it.

    But what the Left are in the process of creating might start off wearing a nanny costume, but inside is Cruella DaVille.

    "Now don't you tease little Billy ... he can't help the way he feels about other men!"
    Reasonable, actually. An extension of the conservative value of civility, and the commonsense conservative value of live-and-let-live.

    Then, after a few years, "WHAT! YOU REFUSE TO BAKE A CAKE CELEBRATING GAY MARRIAGE??? YOU'RE BANKRUPTED!!!"

    We've got to get out. I'm not kidding.
     
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    Touche. (Add your own accent acute.)

    But this illustrates something important.

    No doubt the objector is a liberal, but a reasonable, sensible one.

    He thinks, naw, this can't be real... it's too insane, too crazy ... must be another Righty fake news hysteria-mongering thing.

    But he's still thinking like it was last year. Things are moving FAST. When you jump out of an airplane, after the first second your velocity is about ten meters per second. After the next second, you're moving at twenty meters per second. And so it goes, until you reach terminal velocity -- but you're still headed towards the
    point at which your velocity will become zero.

    Anyway, our objector will think, oh, just an exception, an outlier. Takes all kinds to make a world. Don't get hysterical. (Keeping your cool became a very
    desirable personal characteristic fifty years ago. And when you're lying around on those big pillows passing the joint around and listening to Music from Big Pink, hey, that was the right way to behave. When you smell some other kind of smoke and see the glow of the fire down in the basement, not so much.)

    Tomorrow he'll accept as normal, what he found unbelievable today.

    The day after, he'll be indignant at anyone who even laughs at this sort of thing.

    The day after that, he'll watch, perhaps a bit uneasily, as a laugher is fired from his job for not being able to suppress an impolte chortle.

    The day after that, he'll watch, perhaps uneasily, as someone who refuses to apologize is sued. Just fire them, he'll think

    And so it will go. The frog swims uneasily in the pot, as the temperature rises.

    We've got to get out. And by "we" I don't mean just conservatives. I mean anyone who thinks what's happening is crazy. Hell, Fidel Castro would have found what's happening impossible to believe at first, and then he'd blame it on capitalist degeneracy. (Don't forget that good old Fidel used to send gays to re-education camps.)

    We've got to get out.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's happened to Australia is depressing beyond belief, but I don't think you're as bad as we are.

    The land of Crocodile Dundee, and those wonderful XXXX ads? No ... tell me it ain't so!
     
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    When you read something like that -- "lacked universal appeal" for all love!!! -- at first you think, he's being sarcastic, some old right-winger, "taking the Mickey" as the British say.

    Then you realize, this is how they're actually beginning to think. It's called self-parody.

    Human beings can rationalize anything, if the pressure on them to conform is great enough.

    "Oh, Fritz, what is that nasty smoke that's been rising all week from the Jew-camp?" "Ahh... probably just burning a lot of rotten meat ... don't be so nosy."

    We've got to get out.
     
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    All of this predates Crocodile Dundee.

    I think the lesson here is that it doesn't matter how ladsy or traditional your society is, if there has been a major move to the cities your society is going to become politically correct.

    Australia, despite what you might think, is one of the most heavily urbanised nations on Earth. Therefore we have all these insufferable faux- Progressive types pushing for what they're pushing for everywhere - Scandanavian social democracy and Frankfurt school style political correctness.

    The upside is that they can't get you to do **** all out of major cities.
     
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    Who would have thought during the Nazi bombing of London that one day England would ban words and ideas that are offensive? Another turn of the noose on the neck of Liberty. Jolly, bloody, not fnk good, Brits.
     
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    God, how I hope you're wrong! What you're saying is that this ideological brain-cancer is inevitable, just a necessary part of modernity. I don't want to believe that. And I sure as hell don't want to think I have to go live amongst the tiger snakes in order to get away from the even more venomous PC thoughtpolice.

    Maybe it's not penetrated as deeply as your think. I recall sitting around with people (of my generation or one down, admittedly) in Melbourne a few years ago and everyone having a good laugh at PC crazyness ... and these people had been Maoists in the 60s and 70s and were still leftwing as hell. (They also never turned in their guns, apparently. They're buried somewhere.)

    But ... you can't fool life, as the Russians say.

    Maybe we'll be able to break out of the asylum in North America. Or maybe the inmates-turned-keepers will just die out, via weird sexual practices and drugs and the natural tendency of girls wanting to be girls and boys wanting to be boys. Let's live in hope.
     
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    I agree, this liberal crazy **** have to go. :blankstare:
     
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    The gutlessness of the so-called Conservative Party leadership (not the membership) is astonishing. (The new Prime Minister is a partial exception.)

    We've got a conservative philosopher over here -- a real one, slightly eccentric in the best English tradition-- named Roger Scruton, who unwisely let himself be interviewed by a leftwing journalist. (If you read anything from his very extensive published works, you'll immediately see the difference between American and English conservatism.)

    The journalist of course grossly distorted what Scruton said in the interview [so often, Left=Lie], making him appear to say that Chinese people were robots, rather than what he did say, that the Chinese Communists wanted to make them into robots ... and without even checking, the Conservative government fired Scruton immediately from an advisory post he held.

    There was a huge hoo-ha, even the Leftist magazine the journalist wrote for saw the obvious dishonesty, so they've slapped him on the wrist and Scruton has been reinstated. (Anyone interested can read an account of the affair here. I've linked to the leftwing account, written by that journal's "readers' editor", but it's pretty reasonable. Not everyone on the left is a liar, and I think some of Scruton's language was careless in today's atmosphere. The Wiki article on Scruton, linked to above, has many more links relating to the whole affair.)
     
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