Waffen SS Vets March Openly In Latvia

Yep. That's how far left the DNC party moved. https://www.presidentprofiles.com/Kennedy-Bush/Ronald-Reagan-Governor-of-california.html
I lived in Ca. while Reagan was governor. Only leftist fringes disliked Reagan.

 

No, it was Reagan giving shelter to his failed death squads that did that.

 

Back up what ?

American Indian tribes had black slaves ?

American Indian tribes took captives who became slaves ?

American Indian tribes were involved in the slave trade between other tribes ?

Page XV -> https://www2.census.gov/prod2/decennial/documents/1860a-02.pdf

 

That the tribes were still legally trading slaves into the 1890's.

 

Yes.

FYI:

Comanches took captives but those captives became members of the tribe.

Whereas lets say Chiricahua or Mescalero Apaches took captives who became slaves and traded to other tribes like the Mojave.

Some tribes kept their blood lines pure where as others not so much so.

The Commaches took white women captives for breeding stock. They became members of the tribe.

Where as the Oatman girls were captured by the Apaches and it was made clear to them that they were slaves.

 

We have parades every year of the KKK and other hate groups. Who cares- I like them in the open where they can be seen.

 

And that was legal? They weren't violating any US laws?

 

The 13th Amendment didn't mean jackshit to American Indian tribes since they were a sovereign nation.

But by the 1870's treaties were amended where slavery couldn't be practiced on reservations.

But those renegade Indians not on the "res" ignored the anti slavery amendments to the treaties.

The last captives who were in slavery weren't rescued by the military until the 1890's.

 

Except Native American tribes can't violate the Constitution either. So their actions were illegal. Its no different than organized crime groups today who have slaves.

 

What about NATO of which Latvia is a member?

 

Well, what about Vietnam Veterans? Ought they flaunt their illegal invasion, occupation, rape, torture, illegal bombing of Hanoi, and Agent Orange? And Iraki Veterans? Is it OK for them to flaunt their lies of WMD's, faked proof of their existence, rape, torture at Abu Graib and Guantanamo? How about veterans of Grenada, Afghanistan, Syria, etc? Should they be honoured for flaunting their misdeeds at parades and VFW meetings?

 

The United States didn't invade South Vietnam.
The U.S. military were invited by the Saigon government and it was legal under SEATO.

All American troops were under South Vietnam laws and it was the Saigon government not the U.S. military who established the ROE below the 17th parallel and what areas were restricted fire zones or free fire zones.

It could be said that after JFK signed off on the CIA backed military coups of regime change (President Diem) that America owned South Vietnam and became America's problem.

 

Man I wish my country would pull it's troops out of Latvia. And Ukraine. Over 75 million spent so far to prop up a brutally corrupt experiment in destabilizing Russian borders in a country with such a powerful fascist element within it's borders while homeless people are dying in the Streets in Vancouver and Toronto.

So much waste on so little........

 

Let's see now .....

Lie. Remaining past the democratic election of Vietnam (that the US scuttled) was an invasion.

Lie. Again, read my above comment.

Gigantic lie. The US did anything it wanted and ignored any Vietnamese government authorities, not to mention the bombing of Hanoi, the invasion of Laos and Cambodia and the totally illegal use of Agent Orange.

... which spells illegal invasion, illegal occupation = ILLEGAL WAR.

 

You been well indoctrinated by the cultural-marxist revisionist.

Obvious you were never "in-country."

During the battle of Hue, the 1st. Mar Reg was only able to start winning the battle after the Saigon government lifted the restrictions and Hue became a free fire zone.

One entire NVA division was killed and eliminated from the North Vietnamese Battle of Order.

 

"We couldn't win until the puppet dictatorship told us we could start murdering civilians with no restrictions."

 

This is your answer to everything .... or Putin did it.

My DD-214 proves otherwise.

So much crap.

If there is a point to that you have failed to tell me what it is.

 

Yeah well. People cheer on Vietnam vets, while we know they just massacred entire towns. If people cheer for that, than people might as well cheer of the SS.

 

Seeing as how veterans of those wars weren't actively part of the infrastructure of a system that committed industrial levels of genocide id say they have a bit more wiggle room.

 

"Genocide"? No. But everything else was the same. The Second World War was distinguishable by other deeds than mere genocide and those serving during the Nazi government were not all extermination zealots.

We are talking about veterans of war and the point of this thread is whether or not "honour" or "pride" or "recognition" is an acceptable thing or not. If the veterans in the OP are considered shameful for their service then so are American veterans equally shameful for unfavourable wars in which they participated. You do agree that "heroes" of war are seldom considered heroes by the side against which they fought? If you understand that then the point I am making ought to be crystal clear.

 

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You both said the same thing.

However, those who were trained didn't necessarily understand what their duties might be and from any account I have read none of them did know.

 

Very few nam vets targetted civilians. So far as I know, no US forces were specifically created to do so, like the SS was. You won't find any US veterens marching with regalia signifying anything like extermination squads or death camps. While there were/are a few individual service members that engaged in targetting civilians and likely some covert/secret task forces assigned to it, there is/was nothing equivalent to the SS in the US armed forces.

 

That seems incredibly unlikely. It was common knowledge, even at the time, that the SS was the authority behind rounding up civilians persecuted by the Nazis. Anyone who joined during or after that program knew what they were likely volunteering for.

I find the claim ' I didn't know' about as believeable as the germans who lived and worked near concentration camps claiming they didn't know people were being killed there.

 

The American "Phoenix Program" in Vietnam sought out and murdered civilians. That was their job description.

 

Anyone who joins an elite band does so with the expectation of becoming proudly honoured as a man amongst men. Few understand what their duties might entail but they assume it will require physical and mental abilities above average.

My last year of military service I was posted to an "open" military camp but within it was a foothill with huge doors leading to its interior and the whole thing was surrounded by special security. To this day I do not know what went on inside that hill despite the fact that I could get close enough to shoot anyone entering or exiting those doors.