War on the net.

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  1. Brett Nortje

    Brett Nortje Well-Known Member

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    There is a war raging on the net with islamist extremists and the police all veering for victory over each other. maybe we should discuss my ideas i have had today so far?

    'Pie spy' i had a while ago. this is a program where we find relationships over email and telephonic contact, where we can pin the known terrorists to people they speak to a lot, and, then investigate.

    'Breakthrough' is where the police find information illegally, and, pay the people or person to testify that they went to the police with a long story, where they found the information they are giving to the police, a little wrong lie for a lot of good.

    'Smugglers' was an idea to list the people that stole away to other regions, or left home unexpectedly, and, joined the militants. knowing who they are and where they are is important, as they might know something if involved enough, yes?

    These are my two best ideas so far, but there is a problem with the privacy of persons that are incriminated. they simply cannot have their privacy invaded, but, let me give you examples of where it seems to be okay;

    At air ports, they search through luggage for drugs yes? at borders, they search the cars for illegal stuff, of course. what is the difference in searching through contact numbers and bank transactions to find terrorists? the right to privacy seems to overshadow the really important right to live safely, so, let us try to get past this problem to security and deal with the fourth amendment?

    As of now, america is in no real danger of 'being bombed.' i don't know the specs, but, i know they must have some drug dealers in their prisons from these areas, people that would know where to get a prostitute, a gun, or, indeed, bomb making materials, yes? the thing is timers, the manure used for bombs of today is too easy to get hold of and too hard to regulate, yes? people interested in making bombs would seek the anarchist's cookbook or equivalent wiki leaks stuff - i hope you see how dangerous snowden is now? - and then involve many in these acts.

    The ground wars are not really that challenging, as they will come down to actual soldiers fighting people on drugs, yes?
     
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    And, here I thought this was going to be about the Left and the Right. Liberals, Progressives, and illiberals vs Conservatives. [​IMG] ..... :grin:
     
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    Maybe there is a way to keep people with their right to privacy, while at the same time getting to the bottom of this? When police get a warrant, how is it issued? the way i see it, it comes through [1] a report, [2] a confirmation and then [3] investigation is ordered? this would sit with the report of i.s.i.s. activity or any other illegal activity, and then a confirmation through some means, but this seems to be the stumbling block!

    So, if it comes down to confirming a report, the police or authorities may open a few cases that have nothing to them but names of the investigations and a brief description. this will speed up the investigation, as the report will go straight to the 'open case' and it will be following up on suspicions instead of confirming reports, yes?
     
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    Then, there is the concept of 'recurring words.' for the past month, people have been plotting or discussing areas to bomb for christmas and new years eve. there are heavy secret codes involved, but, there is the recurrence of slang, yes?

    The point here is to find words that get repeated, with pie spy, to find out who is using them the most. these would common words that just get repeated, especially 'slang.' then, we find out the time they are sent at - this will show who used them first, and who repeated them in the chains.

    This is similar to american flagging of suspicious content or key words, of course.
     
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    There is also a war waging on the Net that involves ISIS and black hat hacker groups (such as Anonymous). Some members that were hunting ISIS uncovered a plot and actually turned legit and run an organization that works around the clock to destroy these groups.
     
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    I think this war comes down to identity. it was just last night that 'these terrorists' targeted the ariana grande concert that managed to affect eighty people. these are most probably waged by youngsters themselves, where they identify with i.s.i.s. and the youth at the same time, thinking if they can show the strength of i.s.i.s. on a big stage, they will bring people towards themselves personally rather than for them to join their groups as they might have thought 'was expected of them.'

    So, identity... can we create a new identity in the west where something will attract these young people, searching for an identity, as much as they might deny they are, where they could have their fantasies fulfilled with pain ball guns or such? maybe that would satisfy them, or, maybe we could try to attract them to the trappings of having a family, maybe by advertising that they could marry and adopt a child, being a true hero, or, een adopt a child themselves?

    These activities could be spread, as they would be willing to attend meetings at community halls, as they are eager for an identity, whether they know it or not, with the 'western influences.'
     
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    Terrorists use social media to radicalize uneducated, OR vulnerable youth to convince them of their "cause". Identity is a major problem when flipping these people.
     

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