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We are past due for welfare reform

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Jul 15, 2019.

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We need welfare reform where welfare is for the very young, the very old, and the infirm.
    No welfare for those that wont work. And especially no welfare for the criminal invaders.

    If we stopped welfare for criminal invaders, they would stop coming her.
     
    logical1, Jul 15, 2019
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    Dems would never do that . They promise free stuff to illegals to get as many here as possible
     
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  3. ECA

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    If we stopped hiring illegals they would stop coming here.
     
    ECA, Jul 15, 2019
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  4. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think disability is far more abused, but I agree with you. Gaming the system is too easy for leeches.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not if social safety nets are still in place, and anchor baby laws.
     
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  6. ECA

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    Which specific social safety nets do you think illegal immigrants are eligible for?
     
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    It sounds like you must support mandatory E-Verify.
     
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    I support not hiring illegals
     
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    Which is what mandatory E-Verify helps to accomplish. Do you support that program?
     
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    Which is great for those employers who are honest. What about the countless employers who aren’t honest and hire under-the-table? Those are the ones we need to crack down on.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the entire concept behind MANDATORY E Verify. If an employer hires an illegal, they are then accountable for that trangression. Without mandatory E Verify, there isn't a shred of accountability for the employer because they can simply claim ignorance.

    If you want to talk about under the table employers, there are already laws on the books against that practice, and Id surely be in support of enforcing those laws as well.

    Do you support or oppose E Verify?
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The very young: Parent's responsibility, family's responsibility, then voluntary charity
    The very old: Children's responsibility, family's responsibility, then voluntary charity
    The infirm: Family's responsibility, then voluntary charity
    Those that won't work: Their own responsibility
    Criminal invaders: Deport
     
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  13. ECA

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    Curious...how many infirmed people have you supported with your voluntary charity once there was no family left to care for them?
     
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    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    St. Jude's would be about it, and not all that much. If you are so concerned, YOU take care of them. Why do you imply that I am responsible?
     
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    If you cant feed em, dont breed em. The Government is not your baby daddy.
     
    FatBack, Jul 15, 2019
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    I didn't imply you were responsible. But it was YOU who suggested voluntary charity, right? I just assumed you practiced what you preached.
     
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    You can find the qualifications for public assistance online, so find me a state that allows people other than citizens to get public assistance.

    Coming her sounds Freudian to me.
     
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    Stopping people like Trump and his organization from hiring them then they will go away. Somehow I doubt this would happen.
     
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    Voluntary charity - those who want to help can, those that don't want to help don't have to. What could be more fair?
     
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    Families of anchor babies receive welfare.
     
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    And subsidized housing too.
     
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    Right...so OTHERS can help. Got it.
     
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  23. roorooroo

    roorooroo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those that desire to help can, those who would rather refrain can. Freedom and liberty at its finest... I love freedom and would not even think about forcing you to spend your money on any of the aforementioned subgroups. Can you say the same?
     
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  24. TheAngryLiberal

    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    AMERICA! Land of the Free, NOT! AMERICA Land of the FREEBIES! for Lazy people and Illegals.
     
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  25. ECA

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    I have never forced anyone to do anything. So for the record, you have no desire to help fellow Americans?
     
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