We live in a secular world

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  1. Jolly Penguin

    Jolly Penguin Well-Known Member

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    I think relgiious organizations should be forced to account for every penny they claim as tax exempt for charity reasons, and that nothing involving any preaching of any sort should count, even if it is attached to helping people. Keep the brainwashing out of charity.

    I understand that brain washing is expensive, but its also often profitable, and they should pay their way like everyone else in business.
     
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  2. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely.

    After all, our government is supposed to be separate from religion.

    I'm open to ideas. But, it can be claimed that the building and leadership is needed for any charity they do. And, we don't have limits on how majorly inefficient a charity may be. We have all sorts of charities that aren't religious organizations and are monumentally inefficient.

    In fact, a religious service could be considered a fundraising event.
     
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  3. Chrizton

    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    If we live in a secular world why do I get every Christmas off with pay?
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    We are a democracy, thus incapable of being purely secular.

    So we have prayers before congress, government schools teaching specific religions to be true, exceptions made so that pharmacists, doctors, nurses, etc., don't have to provide approved care, limits of rights for those who are LGBTQ, demands for women to conform to the religious beliefs of some religions when it comes to pregnancy, failures on all manner of equality that we claim to have, etc., etc.

    We can't even all support our own democracy!
     
  5. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    why don't they pay for Buddhist holidays?
     
  6. WillReadmore

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    Xmas is a cultural phenomenon, with the date approximating other cultural celebration dates.
     
  7. Chrizton

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    The sound of one hand clapping is sufficient reward I suppose
     
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    Because plenty of people celebrate Christmas as a secular holiday.
     
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    Particularly Christians, but that does not make it a secular holiday.
     
  10. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    If people celebrate it as a secular holiday, then it's a secular holiday. It can be religious for other folks, but it isn't particularly religious for many, likely most in our country. Yes, plenty of people celebrate it as a secular holiday, no matter how offensive you apparently find that concept.
     
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    I don't find it offensive. You, however, seem to be offended by the idea that Christmas is actually a religious holiday.
     
  12. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Some celebrate it as such. Many others don't. I'm able to recognize those facts. You are not.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    When people are celebrating a secular holiday, they are celebrating a secular holiday. They get to decide whether it is secular or not. They decide. Not you.
     
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    Secularism is a spectrum, like most things. On one end you have atheists. On the other end you have religious freaks that murder folks that even disagree. There is all sorts of stuff in between. I am in between. I was born an raised Catholic but haven't been inside a church except for a wedding of funeral in decades. I believe in God but I really don't care if you do or not.
     
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    Scholz and all social democrats, in all countries, know that the world is secular
     
  17. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So you do not live in Saudi Arabia or Iran I'm guessing.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Secularism may well be a spectrum .. but, your description of that spectrum is all wrong . Secularism has nothing to do with how religious a person is .. nothign to do with where on the religious spectrum one is .. from Atheist to fundamentalist. .. and does not care whether or not you believe in God.

    Time for a google search .. do some reading up .. then get back to me and I will see what you have learned.
     
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