We Were "This Close" Says Iran

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Rugglestx, Feb 14, 2020.

  1. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,717
    Likes Received:
    161
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Says the “good guy.”
     
  2. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    The beauty and artistry of the mosques are unbelievable. I find the last one interesting, since it reminds me of an Orthodox Church, yet the chandeliers are Western and more modern. What's the history behind it?
     
  3. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Absolutely
     
  4. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I’m not willing to accept your definition of moral debauchery.
     
  5. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,717
    Likes Received:
    161
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Right, so tens of millions addicted to drugs; and tens of millions in the sex and pornography industry; and tens of millions of individuals incarcerated... and you’re saying this ain’t moral debauchery...sure.
     
  6. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It’s called freedom. Like many things is has its positives and it’s negatives. The positives far outweigh the negatives in this case.

    What is your point? That modern Iranian society is more moral than modern American society?
     
    AltLightPride likes this.
  7. Shonyman32

    Shonyman32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,557
    Likes Received:
    743
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I never said they were? There is still no difference we support our generals and they support theirs.
     
  8. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    they shouldn't and are wrong to do so..
     
  9. Shonyman32

    Shonyman32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,557
    Likes Received:
    743
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes I disagree with mostly everything Iran does and has said let alone all the terrorist acts but it doesnt change the fact that they are cowards because we killed their top general and they basically did nothing.
     
  10. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Agree. If you support them you have in turn support their actions. If the general is a terrorist then your supporting terrorism.

    I for the record support everyone in the U.S. chain who had a part in turning that scumbag into a puddle.
     
    Robert E Allen and Heartburn like this.
  11. Robert E Allen

    Robert E Allen Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2018
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    5,750
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    No disagreement there.
     
    Shonyman32 likes this.
  12. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,717
    Likes Received:
    161
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Tell that to all the great civilizations and nations that fell because of this so-called “freedom.” America is barely two centuries old and your already declining into the abyss. The Persians have been here for a much longer time.

    I’d argue that they are more more at balance with themselves than Americans are. FFS, you guys have cars waiting in line so people can pick up their anti-depressants.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2020
  13. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    America is not in decline into any abyss. That's a wish of many outside the U.S. but it's simply not true.

    And the barely two century / Persian have been her much longer point....amazing that you think that is somehow a positive for the Persians. Some might say that for a much younger society to bypass a much older one in every single category used to determine world power might be a sign of superiority of that society.

    Would I want my daughter growing up in a free society where she may choose drugs and porn or in a society where her husband can beat her with legal and societal approval...I'll take the former, every time.

    More balanced? As long as your a hetro male I guess it is...anybody else...not so much.
     
  14. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2015
    Messages:
    13,555
    Likes Received:
    4,996
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Iran is supporting various proxy armies in the 'theaters' you listed but the only theater they need worry about in war with the US is their homeland. That is where a shooting war with the US will be decided.
     
  15. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    3,421
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female

    Power is not intelligence, nor creativity nor compassion. Indeed the need of such would suggest the others were absent. The US never believed in passing on or allowing any of the 'freedoms' it claimed to have to any of the countries it wished to control. The US's time of Imperial power was only about 30 years, one of the shortest ever before it went into decline and all it had left was the hope of being able to destroy the world before they fell....and someone programed them to think that they were the 'good guys' and everyone they wanted to kill the 'evil' ones and they mindlessly followed this, not noticing that they were becoming poorer all the time, were losing their rights and were becoming just like they imagined others were.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2020
  16. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Absolute load of pathetic dribble.
     
    Red Lily likes this.
  17. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2015
    Messages:
    13,555
    Likes Received:
    4,996
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The recent suppression of Iranian protests speaks to Persian compassion.
     
  18. 557

    557 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2018
    Messages:
    17,539
    Likes Received:
    9,913
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Umm no. I didn’t say anything but what I said. If our general did the things Soleimani did we should do away with our general. Preferably through military courts, but behavior like that must be dealt with one way or another...
     
  19. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,717
    Likes Received:
    161
    Trophy Points:
    63
    No, not a wish, but an expected consequence of a society that engages in excess. Rampant promiscuity; pervasive drug abuse; mass incarcerations and a general sense of nihilism are reflections of a deeper disease within America.

    “Every single category.”


    Balderdash. America may be number #1 in terms of material and economic success, but that’s pretty much it. It’s no wonder that wealthy and middle class Americans are overdosing on heroin everyday.

    Iran is older than you, and ergo has been through far more pain and oppression than you have. I mean, let’s face it, the US was founded by old rich people trying to avoid paying taxes. You can expect what kind of nation would come about from that...

    I’m sure I read somewhere about America being number 1 in domestic abuse, but that’s expected when many Americans have alcohol problems.

    Right, because you’ve lived there for years and know what you’re talking about.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2020
  20. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2008
    Messages:
    94,819
    Likes Received:
    15,788
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The US has B-2 Bombers that can fly non-stop from the middle of the US over to Iran and back again without touching the wheels on the ground. All we need to do is back out of firing range of your crappy missiles and crush Iran like the bugs they are from the air.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2020
  21. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2018
    Messages:
    7,695
    Likes Received:
    2,310
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How could Iran go to war against America? Iran wouldn't be one percent the
    fire power of America. What was Iran going to attack, California or Hawaii?
     
    jay runner likes this.
  22. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I don't know what you're talking about? What did Soleimani do? He was asked by the governments of Syria and Iraq to help them fight off the terrorists and that's what he was doing. In contrast to Iran and Russia, the US was never asked into Syria. We were told to leave many times, but refused to.

    In Iraq, our government told the people in Mosul not to leave because we had precision bombs, and then we bombed them into the stone age - killing thousands of civilians. In Syria we did the same thing. We bombed their city of Raqqa and killed 13 thousand people, and now we're stealing Syria's oil so the Syrians won't be able to rebuild their country that we destroyed.


    Soleimani is not the criminal, we are the criminals. These are mafia tactics and we're going to suffer dearly for it someday.
     
    Iranian Monitor likes this.
  23. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Iran is attacking and killing American soldiers at our bases in Iraq.
     
  24. 557

    557 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2018
    Messages:
    17,539
    Likes Received:
    9,913
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do some reading on what the man did at home...

    I’m in agreement that we should not be jacking around in their sandbox. As long as they keep busy killing their own citizens we should let them. None of our business. Right? Eff the poor Iranians that suffer under people like him. But I’ll never cry over the death of a violent authoritarian like Soleimani whether I support the wars or not.
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2020
    Red Lily likes this.
  25. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2015
    Messages:
    6,559
    Likes Received:
    1,650
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The intricate and (almost perfect) geometric symmetry of every mosque in Iran contains also an intentional error to remind people that "only God is perfect". But while mosques exhibit some of the best examples of Irano-Islamic architecture, I should mention that those examples aren't confined to mosques. Indeed, many of the pictures I posted aren't from mosques, but public squares, public works (such bathhouses, polo grounds etc), and public reception houses and palaces. For instance, the Naghshe Jahan square is built around what used to be a polo ground and contains, besides its beautiful mosques, all sorts of other beautiful structures.
    [​IMG]

    And these would be examples from historic bathhouses in Iran:
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    But to give greater focus, and before I address your question, let me post the pictures below from some of the historic bridges in Isfahan. And a few other things of relevance in the context of the discussion here.

    [​IMG]
    Khaju Bridge - Wikipedia
    [​IMG]
    Si-o-se-pol - Wikipedia
    [​IMG]
    Shahrestan Bridge - Wikipedia

    One of the reasons I posted the picture of the last bridge above, besides the fact that it is the oldest bridge in Isfahan, is that its foundations date back to the Sassanian empire of Iran, contemporaries of Rome. And that leads me to some of the more ancient things you can find in Iran, including the ones below:

    [​IMG]
    Rock relief of the triumph of Shapur I over the Roman emperors Valerian and Philip, Naqsh-e Rustam in Fars Province, Iran
    http://www.getty.edu/art/collection...oman-emperor-valerian-french-about-1413-1415/
    The picture you referred to was from the Golestan Palace. As Tehran is (by Iranian standards) a relatively new city, the Golestan Palace is among its oldest pieces of architecture in Tehran itself -- and does contain European influences.

    Golestan Palace - Wikipedia
    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page