Well, Trump does it again! Spills classified information to foreign head of state.

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  1. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    First it was classified intelligence supplied by Israel that he spewed to Russians to impress them with how big a guy the little man is. Now when speaking with Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte he boasts about the locations of two U.S. nuclear submarines near North Korea.

    This is doing damage to us! He cannot be trusted with classified info. What is the solution?
     
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    I heard other nations have pulled all their spies out of America for an extended vacation, they don't need them while Trump is president.
     
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    So, tell me where he did something wrong.
     
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    He's placing our service men and women at risk. Oh well, no biggie.
     
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    This was likely very deliberate to communicate indirectly to N. Korea without making a direct threat. This does not threaten or military personnel in the slightest.
     
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    Yeah because we have some subs that always are part of carrier groups somewhere in a ten thousand mile radius under the water.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah because we should let ISIS bomb civilian air liners and now NK is going to sink our subs.

    Hilarious.
     
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    Executive Order 13526
    As president, Trump has the legal power to declassify information. He also has the authority to share information with whomever he wants, including foreign adversaries.

    I imagine YOU are the only person in the US that doesn't know subs accompany our fleets.
     
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    More FKN felony leaks. So let me get this straight. Whoever committed the felony of leaking this to the press, and the press that published it, were so concerned over what Trump said in a private conversation to another President, that they published it?

    Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years.

    More than 5 percent, or one out of every 20 searches seeking upstream Internet data on Americans inside the NSA’s so-called Section 702 database violated the safeguards Obama and his intelligence chiefs vowed to follow in 2011, according to one classified internal report reviewed by Circa.

    The Obama administration self-disclosed the problems at a closed-door hearing Oct. 26 before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that set off alarm. Trump was elected less than two weeks later.

    The normally supportive court censured administration officials, saying the failure to disclose the extent of the violations earlier amounted to an “institutional lack of candor” and that the improper searches constituted a “very serious Fourth Amendment issue,” according to a recently unsealed court document dated April 26, 2017.

    Maybe when Obama said “I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone,” he meant he had a pen and access to your phone.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/265686/
     
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  10. Kode

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    I SERVED on a sub. We often trained with a fleet. However fast attack subs commonly operate lone wolf.

    But while it's true that the Prez as a right to declassify information, it is done in a procedure. There are notifications and if Intelligence knows of any reason something should not be declassified, the Prez is advised. Trump just spews. He likes to impress people and he thinks it impresses.
     
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    How do you know if Trump fed Dutertew false information hoping it will make it to the Russians and Chi-Coms so they'll put their ASW aircraft into the air while our EP-3's and RC-135 are gathering intelligence.

    Or maybe Trump was telling the truth ?

    Since we are dealing with North Korea, gunboat diplomacy only works when the other side knows what's out there over the horizon or beneath the waves.
     
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  12. Kode

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    Yeah, deflect to Obama. But why didn't the right, –who is known to have searched out every opportunity to impugn Obama and frequently invented ones that didn't exist, –report these things then and only now finds them to gripe about? Hmm? Why?

    And press role in this? http://vote.us.org/memo/thread/1052...d-nuclear-submarine-locations-to-philippines/

    "We have a lot of firepower over there," Trump said of the Korean Peninsula, according to a transcript of the call obtained by the New York Times and verified by White House officials."
    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-nuclear-submarine-north-korea-duterte-philippines-2017-5
     
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    SOP, it's a given. There's are always one or two nuclear attack subs that accommodates each Carrier Strike Group (CSG) or Carrier Battle Group. (CBG)

    It's the boomers locations that are kept top secret that not even President Trump or the JCOS know their locations. And the boomers sure are never in the littorals.
     
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    Funny, I didn't see a CNN BREAKING NEWS banner reporting this today and neither did MSNBC reported on this story.

    But the Drudge Report and Fox News reported on the story how Obama broke the law and illegally spied on Americans.
     
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    Just by knowing where nuclear submarines are, a country such as China can fine-tune listening devices to see if they can detect an audio signal to identify the subs. It is not a joke.
    The location of subs are always kept secret while they are submerged.
    I don't think anyone is accusing Trump of doing harm deliberately, but it is his ignorance compounded by his arrogance and need to brag that now has endangered an Israeli agent and 2 US subs - for no reason!
     
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    Attributes better assigned to the felonious leakers and the Press that published this information throughout the world.
     
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    WRONG.
    They are alerting us to what a buffoon inhabits the White House.
     
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    So, let's recap. You're furious that Trump told Durante, because revealing this information is so dangerous, but you are fine with the felon that leaked it to the press, so they could tell the world?
     
  19. Kode

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    You're basing all that on assumptions. You're too eager to find an escape hatch for the Child in Chief.

    He spewed the info to Duterte (Durante? -as in "Jimmy"?) over the phone. That made it an official document of the Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs. They published the official document, making it public information.
     
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    Trump: We have subs.

    Media: OMFG TOP SEKRET COLLUSION RUSSIANS IMPEACH MY GERBIL FOR PREZ
     
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    This is serious. I'm sorry you are incapable of treating it as such.
     
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    The oft hyperventilating panic-attack hysteria of your messages tend to be quite comical.:roflol:
     
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    Yeah.

    Subs in their usual place and ISIS bombs kept off civilian airliners is very serious.

    It's a shame that you didn't know subs are always with the battle group, and that bombs should be kept off civilian airplanes, regardless of what country they're from.

    And yeah, that pretty much is the media and the dems reaction to things that are completely normal, acceptable, and moral things to do.
     
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    Yea it's supper serious. Lol
     
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    Funny, last month CNN with a BREAKING NEWS banner had no problem announcing to the world that one of our nuclear subs entered the port of Busan, South Korea.

    Why would the Clinton News Network reveal the position of one of our subs ?

     
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