Well, Trump does it again! Spills classified information to foreign head of state.

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  1. Sallyally

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    No one is finding an American sub without some serious help from us. Either by using articial noise or spying.
     
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    I remember Sen Paul screaming from the rooftops about Obama's illegal wiretaps, but as usual the Obama's media lapdogs reported zilch.
     
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    Yeah. And I suppose you have a leak to that document? Which you assume is an accurate reflection of the meeting?
     
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    This is why the Press has no credibility.
    Most Americans don't believe the news media

    Congratulations, boneheads.

    You had the Most Respected Press in the World, but you blew your credibility propping up Obama the Inept and trying to elect Hillary president

    Most America now believes you peddle Fake News.

    And they are right. You do.

    The media lies.

    Take for instance this week's lie that Ivanka was shaking down sultans to donate to a non-existent Ivanka Fund. Reporters from CNN and other news outlets spread this lie across Twitter.

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/05/most-americans-dont-believe-news-media.html#more
     
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    Your handle indicates you served us while putting yourself in the way of great harm in what must have been one of the most dangerous and frustrating seasons of your life, thank you.

    On this subject, today, its like you could give less of a fk about national security as long as you get to put a knife in the Donald. And that's fine, that's your right, but, its not particularly compelling. And with the blizzard of media lies, why are you so quick to accept it as fact?

    A little Skepticism Sir!

    Daniel Payne at the Federalist just cataloged "13 More Major Fake News Stories In Just Five Months Of Trump’s Presidency":

    They range from the mildly amusing:
    On February 1 the U.K. Daily Mail reported that Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch had “founded and led a student group” known as the “Fascism Forever Club” in high school. The story made waves at news websites and on social media: U.S. News and World Report, The Nation, AOL, the AV Club, Salon, and Vice all fell for it, while writers and media personalities such as Bill Maher, Heer, Gersh Kuntzman, Millhiser, and Olbermann all eagerly and credulously tweeted about it.As it turns out, it wasn’t true at all: Gorsuch had simply included the club as a joke in his yearbook entry. Much of the media couldn’t simply wait to confirm this, however, leading to yet another hysterical fake news media cycle.

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2017/05/most-americans-dont-believe-news-media.html#more
     
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  7. Kode

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    It's a shame that you are so uninformed, oblivious to facts, and given to personal insults. But that's fine because I can return it in equal measure. Now, go read my post #10 which you seem to have ignored.
     
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  8. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    Well ok, you got me. It's true that we can't believe anything that anyone says unless it originates from a Republican liar and is corroborated by Newsmax.
     
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    You serving on a sub makes it even sillier that you would not know that.

    I'm obviously very informed, you're welcome to challenge that though.

    You may take my disdain for this thread as an insult, but I haven't personally insulted you.

    I'm certainly being insulting of the argument, because it is just stupid.

    Trump said we have a sub in the ocean. Oh noes.

    Trump said ISIS can bring laptop bombs onto civilian airliners that can't be detected. Oh noes part 2.

    This happens all the time, and if it wasn't Trump saying it, you wouldn't even care.

    Did you vote for Hillary Clinton?
     
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    The subs probably have the ability to move from one place to another. However it seems a clear message to NK, so where is the potential danger in this?
     
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    Media lies pale in comparison to the lies emanating from the lips of the so-called president.
    The so-called president is the one endangering our security, the leakers are letting us know he has done so. It is clear to me which is the bigger danger - the overweight, ignorant old man with his finger near the red button....
     
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    What subs? it sounds as if the anti-Trump media are clutching at straws again to discredit him.
    Fact is, sub nuke missiles have got a range of several thousand miles, so they don't need to go anywhere near Korea..:)
     
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    The spread of TDS increases.
     
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    The president can de-classify anything he wants to. And if he doesn, he most likely has reasons that he hasn't told us. Simple answer.
     
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    Wouldn't know what??!!
     
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    Does it make any sense to you that the location of our subs would be classified information?
     
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    Same with the Israeli info shared with the Russians. No one would have known anything about it, but for the press with its hair on fire screaming about it. Now the world knows it was the Israelis who alerted us to the Lap top bomb schemes. And still not sure where the problem is.
     
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    Whatever.
     
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    Why would it? What do you think will happen now?
     
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    This thread is a joke.

    First and foremost, the President has ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY over ALL CLASSIFIED INFORMATION PER THE LAW.
    He can tell anyone he wants, any time he wants, anything he wants.

    He is the deciderer. He does not need permission, or any other approval, he is THE BOSS, period, and rightly so!

    He did not tell Russia who told us about the laptop bombs, our enemy within MSM did, THEY are the DANGER, THEY are the TRAITORS in COLLUISON with our outside enemies.

    The MSM told the world we had a sub in Skorea, not that was even classified as it made a public docking, in plain site......again the MSM are the TRAITORS and the ENEMY WITHIN!

    Anyone with any naval knowledge or research knows subs travel with ALL Carrier and battle groups.
    We have subs all over the world. He did not say exactly where they were, just that they were near, you think the NK's don't already know they are being watched and have an arsenal pointed at them 24/7?

    This was a backhanded threat to NK nothing more.
    Once again President Trump proves he is smarter then dam near everyone in Washington DC and certainly anyone in the MSM, and every liberal, anti-trumper in this forum.

    As I have said before, President Trump is playing 6 dimensional space chess, and the rest of the clowns are playing checkers and losing.

    Get a grip, your TDS is leaking all over my monitor.
     
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    1. Subs are near carriers that are already there
    2. They could be anywhere in a large area
    3. They tend to move about
    4. They're kinda hard to find on purpose
    5. Sub movements and dockings are already on the news
    6. Even if they know a sub is there, what are they gonna do about it
    7. Even if they know a sub is there, how does that create a problem for us
    8. The POTUS can say theres a sub in the area if he wants
    9. What's NK or anyone else going to do about it
    10. Subs are all over the oceans from all countries
    11. Your thread is ridiculous
     
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    And you know for a fact that Trump gave away their coordinates? Because it'll be funny if he only mentioned the fact that there are two tiny subs operation in the vast open ocean off the Korean coast. Where we have 2 carriers....

    So much for your lone wolf theory

    Second carrier to join US ships near Korean Peninsula

    Updated 11:37 AM ET, Sat May 20, 2017


    Arnt the media and you guys over reacting to nothing? Trump says we have 2 nuclear subs somewhere off the cost of Korea to make it known that Korea doesn't want any. You can destroy multiple nations with just 1 submarine. Especially the tiny ones like North Korea. We have 2 of them. He was obviously just making a point.

    "We have two submarines — the best in the world. We have two nuclear submarines, not that we want to use them at all," Trump was quoted in NYT

    Stating something thats almost a certainty to anyone with common sense. "We have 2 nuclear submarines somewhere off the Korean coast". No duh. But where are they? And does North Korea have the ability to determine their exact location to attack them? Do they have the ability to attack them?


    Are you saying that our subs aren't capable of evading North Korea and that North Korea can somehow track and chase them down while 2 of our carrier groups control the waters?

    Trump makes a vague statement and the fake news try to spin it like he gave away secrets involving their exact location and that our subs will be somehow put in danger. Guess fake news will be fake news. Spreading bias and opinions instead of facts




     
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    Classified Information Leak:

    Present location of all U.S. Navy aircraft carriers courtesy of the U.S. Navy.

    http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html

    Doesn't make sense to me but the U.S. Navy has been doing it since 1993.
     
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    That's ridiculous. As with the Israel thing, THE WORLD now knows because a felon leaked to the press and the press told the world. But, it's Trump's job to control his administration and clearly he is not controlling the leaking. And now the leakers have really pissed of GB by leaking photos their intelligence shared with ours, all without so much as a raised eyebrow from you, yet the claim was "fear" that friendly intelligence would no longer share with us. It's appears to be bull ****. The goal is to plant a knife, at every opportunity, in Trump, because these dead-enders refuse to accept the results of the election.
     

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