We're already seeing signs of unintended side effects and dangers from the vaccine

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  1. ronv

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    I don't know about Fla., but here you wait 15 minutes after to see if you have an adverse reaction.
     
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    daisydotell Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In Florida if you have had a reaction to any medicine in the past it is a 30 minute wait.
     
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    And people there with an epi pen, and Benadryl bet.
     
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    Which in Florida a pharmacist cannot administer, he must call 911 and have paramedics decide what to do.
     
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    This new legislation not only offers protections for people who suffer from life-threatening allergies, but it also provides civil liability protections for health care providers, pharmacists and others who maintain and administer this emergency treatment. To be most effective, epinephrine must be administered early on during a severe allergic reaction – whether the trigger is a food, insect, or other allergen.

    Information on Florida's New Epi Pen Law (jaxallergy.com)
     
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    My question is this, for those who take the vaccine, are they still required to comply with all the mask mandates? If so, what's the use in even taking the vaccine, if you still have to behave like you did pre-vaccine?
     
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    Most people take the vaccine to prevent catching covid, not to avoid wearing a mask.
     
  8. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because it's all about control, not health.
     
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    “C’MON MAN! SHUT UP, WEAR YOUR MASK AND GET YOUR VACCINATION”
     
  10. daisydotell

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    They have ambulances on standby.
     
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    daisydotell Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think the masks are going to be with us for a while. Joe wants it during his first 100 days. (sigh)
     
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    Some, but not all of us.
     
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    Just saying what Joe said. I wonder what he thought of the congressman that lifted his mask to sneeze in his hand.
     
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    Health is about controlling the spread of contaminants and has always been about that. You do what so many do on this forum-you don't think before you write and use a word like "control" to mean one narrow rigid negative concept where bad guys tell you what to do. That is the thinking process of a petulant child. You can do better. If the spead of diseases were not controlled and you caught one, you would be the first to whine and demand medical attention. Come on man, give your head a shake.

    No one is trying to "control" you when they ask you not to spread a contagious disease to others-they are asking you to be considerate. Stop being so damn self indulgent elitist silver spooned thinking your world is isolated and what you do does not impact on others negatively. No that won't kill you but your selfishness will kill others.

    Have a nice day and sneeze in your sleeve. Its not a matter of controlling you-but if you sneeze in my face I may have to. Get real.
     
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    I thought we wear masks to keep from spreading the Covid that we don't have, not to protect ourselves.
     
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    It stops with you and your questions based on ignorance. Your questions evidence you are not aware why vaccines would not break down immunity or have to be taken periodically. The fact you can't understand that means you need to stop and educate yourself before you ask questions based on erroneous assumptions based on ignorance.
     
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    Did you really give it a thought? You thought? We wear masks to:

    1-help prevent the spread of an illness we may have but NOT know we have;
    2-help prevent inhaling droplets from someone else with the virus who may or may not know they have it;
    3-to show courtesy to essential service workers like physicians, nurses, social workers, care workers, fire and paramedic personel, taxi drivers all in the front lines of exposure trying to protect us all and get us to and from treatment and keep us safe.

    You thought? Doesn't sound like it. Its not confusing. The fact you made the comment you did means you question the need to wear masks.

    No one has said to you that a mask is a guarantee of anything. If you can't figure out what common courtesy is and why we have been asked to wear masks don't pose that you thought-you are evidencing thoughtlessness.
     
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    Which most masks do not.

    And you jump to conclusions about people you know nothing about.

    Yes you thinking process is.

    Really, how long have diseases been around, versus the new control of demanding the wearing of masks?

    When they require unproven, untested and uncontrolled devices that sure as hell is control.

    Good advice try it sometime, recently masks have been shown to a increase in pneumonia, are you advocating people should catch that to not be self indulgent.

    No one is sneezing in your face, but you have no right to order me to do something that could have a negative effect on my health.
     
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    Right until you demand treatment for yourself then you will demand everyone around you wear masks.
     
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    You need to do the same, the vaccine is not well tested and is not a traditional vaccine, get a clue.
     
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    Treatment for what?

    And I would never demand someone else do something to protect me that might injure them.
     
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    I recently had someone here try and convince me we wear masks to prevent being uninfected carriers.
     
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    Well Bonded you stated, in regards to masks preventing the spread of illness..."whiuch most masks do not. " Then in the very next response you stated, "And you jump to conclusions about people you know nothing about."

    To that I say, no I do not conclude anything about anyone but I do read and challenge the conclusions contained in your words such as the one above where you make a sweeping conclusion based on an erroneous assumption you advocate because you don't want to be bothered wearing a mask.

    Then you stated: "Yes you thinking process is." I am not sure what you meant by that incoherent response but my thinking process is different than yours in the sense that I believe which you clearly do not, that each and every one of my decisions and actions could negatively impact on another human and so when I am asked to do things voluntarily to reduce the likelihood of harming someone else, I do not mind when it comes to something like wearing a mask. Yes in my thinking process, someone working in a store, driving a taxi, a bus, working in a retail store, is a firefighter, paramedic, police officer, teacher, social worker, personal care worker, can and should ask me to wear a mask. Its the least I can do.

    You asked this qetsion:

    "Really, how long have diseases been around, versus the new control of demanding the wearing of masks?"

    Are you really that silly? You have no clue people were taught to cover their faces thousands of years ago so as not to spread disease? You think its a "new" concept? Lol. Really?

    You stated:

    "When they require unproven, untested and uncontrolled devices that sure as hell is control."

    That is your definition of control. You have taken the word and jammed it into one context as if it has no other meanings.

    You stated:

    "Good advice try it sometime, recently masks have been shown to a increase in pneumonia, are you advocating people should catch that to not be self indulgent. "

    Again you engage in ignorance and you make a silly false assumption to justify not wanting to wear a mask:

    https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/no-you-wont-get-pneumonia-from-normal-face-mask-use/#:~:text=There’s no evidence that normal use of face,that wearing face masks could lead to pneumonia.

    You stated:

    "No one is sneezing in your face, but you have no right to order me to do something that could have a negative effect on my health."

    My comment was a hypothetical not an accusation. I said IF you sneezed in my face and insisted in sneezing in peoples' faces you will find someone will control you whether you like it or not.

    Yes contrary to what you may think, the law can most certainly order you detained if you knowingly spread a contagious disease and always has been able to.

    Next, no one has asked you to do anything that will have a negative effect on your health. Your attempt to suggest people asking you to be courteous o rnot engage in thoughtless, reckless or dangerous behaviour, is negative to your health, is absurd.

    You really think of yourself that highly you think anyone is going to bother with you when you run around without a mask? Are you that full of yourself?

    Dude lighten up. No one will do anything to you until you do something that endangers them and from the sounds of it you sound capable getting a punch in your face at anytime if you can't figure out not to sneeze in someone's face or breath on them.

    Lol dude, you got bad breath man. Back up.
     
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    Go take a hike.
     
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    How about overthinking and confusion?
     
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