What are Y'all Gonna Do Next Month When A Gallon Of Milk Cost $11

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Condor060, Mar 11, 2022.

  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,966
    Likes Received:
    49,360
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    @apexofpurple here he is yet again shamelessly repeating the same BS as though it's never been explained to him.
     
    apexofpurple and US Conservative like this.
  2. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Has nothing to do with politics. It's about the PEOPLE - and the people are too far gone for anything like the level of sacrifice and cooperation needed for Govt Regulated resources. The effort required by individuals is way beyond the 21stC limit.
     
  3. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Can we know what your purpose is in demonising these caveats? Is your goal to ensure people don't do anything to save themselves?

    I can see the mechanics of it. Keep reminding the folk that fear is just as terrible as hurt feelings, and that anything in that neighbourhood is essentially beyond the pale. Make THAT the focus, and you reduce the risk that folk will empower themselves. They'll be too busy keeping those denial boats (conspiracy theories! preppers! everything will be fine again in a few weeks! govt will save me!) afloat. Besides, they won't want to risk the condemnation of the Kool Kids by laying in a few extra stores.
     
  4. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Bingo. But it's a problem all over the West, not just America.
     
  5. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The incremental damage that the denialists 'can't see'. As I keep saying to such folk, it's not about a Zombie Apocalypse, it's about death by a thousand cuts.
     
  6. Xyce

    Xyce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2019
    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    2,385
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There is no price gouging. Oil prices are going up because of Biden and the Democrats.
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  7. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    To be fair (not that $85 is fair for that puny collection either way), there are some exey items involved. There's definitely meat, and it looks as though there's also fresh pasta and cheese. All three are 'luxuries'. If there's real maple syrup there too, that's another strike, as are the pre-packaged fresh greens. Our sample person hasn't yet learned how to live frugally :p
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,625
    Likes Received:
    63,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2022
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,625
    Likes Received:
    63,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Republicans did that, with their mishandling of covid
     
  10. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,625
    Likes Received:
    63,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    what I post is fact, been explained to you mean many times, even provide links
     
  11. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,625
    Likes Received:
    63,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    same thing, but at least we agree the people are too far divided for that to happen
     
  12. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,625
    Likes Received:
    63,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2022
  13. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I find myself in the situation where I was so poor for so long, from childhood to my early 30s, that I know how to get by very frugally.

    Asian noodles with frozen veggies and low sodium flavoring. Rotisserie chicken and chicken stock in frozen ice cube trays. I can get local wild growing mint, sage, chia.

    If I'm feeling extravagant crack a duck egg into said soup.

    Basmati rice is cheap and easy to make.

    PB and fruit preserves.

    Shop at outlet stores.

    Bulk steel cut oats.

    Tuna curries.

    There is like a 20 acre farm plot near by. Of the 20 people that work it 15 are in the fields and the rest package up and wash whatever was in season that day. It's fresher and cheaper than the dollar store. They even take requests for specific crops if you come back a couple hours later.
     
    crank likes this.
  14. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,966
    Likes Received:
    49,360
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You post a mixture of a fact mixed in with your out of context interpretation and out of context timeline.

    And you keep right on regurgitating it is though no one knows any better
     
  15. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,966
    Likes Received:
    49,360
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't know if they grow out there but if you harvest small wild onions beware of the look-alike death camas
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  16. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,625
    Likes Received:
    63,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    what I post is true, you know it, which is why you're not posting any rebuttal to what I say, you know Trump did that
     
  17. George Bailey

    George Bailey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2019
    Messages:
    2,858
    Likes Received:
    2,412
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do any leftists think maybe they made a mistake? Nah. We have more trans bathrooms now and Ketanji is gonna be on the bench! Well worth it. Yippee!
     
    JET3534 and US Conservative like this.
  18. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's too dry and desert like here for wild onion or garlic.

    Even though it's 25 miles as the crow flies to the ocean.
     
  19. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    32,956
    Likes Received:
    7,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It's hyperbole with the comparison to $11 per gallon. Furthermore, blaming a president on anything is futile. By your logic, Trump should be blamed for meat shortages in 2020.

    As I said they will probably do it next week in their FOMC meeting. Remember, Trump pressured the FED to lower interest rates to near zero becaause there were signs that the economy was slowing down, like summer durable were decreasing unexpectedly.

    Restricting the money supply will cause a credit crunch, which businesses, especially the Fortune 500 do not want. As I said, they can, but the end result would be a recession and you will blame Biden for that too :confused

    Except inflation is a lagging indicator, not a leading indicator. If Trump was reelected, we would still be having high inflation rates. The only difference, Trump will be blaming China and so would you.

    Debt to income ratio has nothing to do with standard of living or high expensive it is to live. Singapore is very expensive to live yet the averaper native Singaporean has better financials than the Average American. We Americans have historically had low savings rates, high debt to income ratio, and with a stagnant real wages the past 40 years while everything else becoming more expensive due to technological advancements and other inputs, that is the reason why.
     
  20. Xyce

    Xyce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2019
    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    2,385
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This Tweet is in reference to the demand shock of oil production in the global economy due to the artificial drop in demand from both the travel restrictions during COVID coupled with the oil price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia in the backdrop.

    Note that this particular Tweet was from May 5th, 2020.

    Demand shocks are not a good thing; they are an irregularity in the economy. Demand shock is not a good thing as "workers lose income and all consumers cut back on spending." Trump was reacting to a normalization of the economy out of demand shock. Context matters.

    Also, please note: under Trump, gas prices never surpassed $3 a gallon; today, under Biden, gas is over $4 a gallon.
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2022
  21. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,625
    Likes Received:
    63,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    yep, Trump thought oil prices were too low, and did what he could to reduce supply during covid, now that covid is ending and demand is up, prices are going up until supply can catch up again
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2022
  22. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,966
    Likes Received:
    49,360
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I just gave you my rebuttal it's not my fault if you want to keep repeating the same out of context things add nauseam.
     
    US Conservative likes this.
  23. Xyce

    Xyce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2019
    Messages:
    3,723
    Likes Received:
    2,385
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Covid started during an election year, and it is now ending in an election year. Just a coincidence, I know.

    The demand shock was caused by irrational fear, stoked by the fear porn from the media and the Democrats (but I repeat myself), which resulted in the shutting down of the global economy. If there was no shutdown, there would not have been a demand shock. The demand shock was caused by Democrats and those that think like them on a global scale.
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2022
  24. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    32,956
    Likes Received:
    7,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Simmons called for the cooling down of the Stimulus packages, which both Republicans and Democrats were in favor of, not to mention their constituents. Republicans and Democrats had different opinion on how much and to whom, but Summers wanted zero, zilch, nada, none.

    Your graph is incorrect. Biden won the nomination in November 2020 and took the oath of office in late January 2021. Those dates are incontrovertible. As such, inflation, based on your chart, was already increasing in the last year of Trump.

    Try again and use the correct facts.
     
  25. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    32,956
    Likes Received:
    7,587
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And you would vote Republican no matter who is running.
     

Share This Page