What can Team Hillary do to excite the youth and black vote in 2016?

This is not a bash Hillary thread.

We saw that Axelrod and his team was able to play the "black guy" card to defeat Hillary in the primaries and he was able to get his product presented as hip, cool and like a rock star.

Without that masterful marketing program, Hillary would have cleaned the clock of Obama if they did not take that route.

I don't see the "first female POTUS" as a big reason to draw out the uninformed vote the way Axelrod was able to draw them out for Obama.

The media will do their part in pushing Hillary but I don't think Hollywood will get as involved as they did with Obama

In order for the Democrat Party to retain the WH, they will need the youth and black vote to actually get to the polls. Yes, union hacks and govt employees will get out and vote, but what of those living on taxpayer largesse, how do you motivate them as well?

Do you think "the war on women" is strong enough to motivate people?

There is no way to package Hillary as being hip or cool or unique.

The method used with Obama to present him as some form of Messiah can't be used again for a while so it comes down to name recognition and mobilizing those who need taxpayer money.

What do you see as possible ways that the Democrat Party could market Hillary to try and get people out to vote in 2016?

If they can't solve that problem, then it's going to be a very tight race even if the GOP runs a nobody.

 

in case people forgot, it wasn't our proudest moment in politics. Hillary cannot replicate this

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This crap still makes me sick to my stomach.

It's like crap out of 1939

 

Whether it is Hillary Clinton or someone else as the Democratic nominee in '16, the ONLY thing that needs to be done is to point out the Republicans stand on everything. The Republicans will never win the Presidency until they lose the influences of the Tea Party and the Evangelicals. Contrary to the nonsense that you might see printed on this site, the vast majority of Americans, except for white males over the age of 40, the ONLY group that they can seem to win, will NOT vote for the Republicans. They alienate the blacks, immigrants, women, gays, non-Christians, etc. They CANNOT win relying on old white males.

 

That really sounds like the typical TP delusion. The electorate went for a fresh, articulate alternative that had opposed the Bush fiasco, and opted for him a second time because they preferred him to the GOP alternative again.

Repubs can learn from that in their search for a nominee.

The mainstream media will not exhibit the extreme partisan bias of Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Ann Coulter, Michael Reagan, Neal Boortz, Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin, G Gordon Liddy, Hugh Hewitt, Dana Loesch, Kevin Jackson, Dennis Prager, Monica Crowley, Brit Hume, Sarah Palin, Byron York, Elizabeth Hasslebeck, Charles Krauthammer, Mike Huckabee, Michael Medved, David Frum, Joe Scarborough, George Will, Kathleen Parker, Paul Gigot, etc., and "Hollywood" hasn't had a political cache since Reagan.

But as long as the Angry White Guys fixate on Clinton demonization instead of getting back in touch with America and presenting a viable alternate that shares the public's agenda, all they'll have to get exited about is another Romney Landslide!

Sniveling is not a winning strategy.
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electing her because she's a woman, is the same as electing Barry because he's black. Gee THAT worked out well don'tcha think?

 

The stranglehold on the GOP by factions that prevent their respecting the public consensus on universal firearm background checks, comprehensive immigration reform, etc., or offering a realistic alternative to the ACA, means they will be a regional party - and the Dixiecans cannot succeeed nationally.

 

Of course, those are the Angry White Guys' boilerplate excuses for not voting for certain folks, not the real reasons most other Americans do vote for them.

It's amusing when someone needs to tell others why they vote as they do.

And it's quite telling.



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LOL

Yeah right.

When some 95+% of black folk vote for a black candidate, and you think they didn't vote on race

 

If she was qualified, and worth something... then you should vote for her. It's not the the gender, it's the personal integrity.

 

Be Santa Claus. Welfare, free college money, free birth control. That's all it takes for a democrat to win.

 

I'm thinking free IPads should do it this time around.

 

Let's see. Republicans vote for republicans. Democrats vote for democrats. So if "angry white guys" didn;t vote for Obama, it would stand to reason those were angry DEMOCRAT white guys, because if Obama were Clinton, the white republicans wouldn't vote for him either.

So please, instead of running around tarring everyone as rraaccciissttsss like a broken record, show me logically how it makes a republican a racist to not vote for a black democrat. Are you saying we should switch parties to vote for a black dude to prevent democrats from pulling the race card???

 

Yeah, because it's not as if the entire Dem Party leadership and the left-tilted Mainstream Media have not been excreting political bricks for months now over the very real probability that the 'almost dead and utterly irrelevant and only angry white men support them' GOP is going to utterly shellac (again) the Dem Party leadership in the upcoming mid term elections. Gosh! Imagine what the GOP could do if it WERE a viable party and relevant to voters in today's "Hope and Change!" world! Yah think?

 

The racialists are the democrats, pitting everyone not white against whites. Bringing in every dirt poor illegal alien you can drag over the border, because most have less than grade school education (from 3rd world places) and will ALWAYS need public assistance. You continue the demographic assault via immigration, and have a permanent growing underclass and you get democrat votes.
Republicans don't depend on white males, we depend on American values and the constitution. Democrats appeal to the envy poor immigrants feel for rich fat white Americans, and work that race card. Then you give handouts. Period. Your ideas suck. Socialism sucks and I fail to see why taking America down this way will help anyone.

 

Well if she does run the only way in which she can win -- even with the Big Dawg out front again politically pimping for her -- is if she pretty much pulls a 180 degrees turn around and refutes nearly all things Obama without ever actually saying that she's refuting all things Obama; that is, assuming that the Blunderer-in-Chief continues the remainder of his presidency in the same clueless state of mind, utterly mishandling damn near everything. On the other hand if Obama were to learn how to BE president of all the people during the last years or so of his presidency then Hillary and Bill would immediately attach their campaign efforts to that part of his legacy.

By a 180 degree turn I mean that she's going to have to be talking to the nation like a moderate Republican rather than like another pie-in-the-sky liberal because (again, unless Obama utterly changes the way in which he runs the presidency) in 2016 the nation will be so sick of Obama and the Dem Party leadership in general that the average citizen will be ready to spit upon Birkenstock wearing trust fund legacy liberals again in favor of people who have common sense. So Hillary and Bill will have to make Hillary look almost like a -- er -- compassionate conservative.

As for the youth vote she and Bill can forget about them. They were BURNED under Obama and a not so old Harvard poll pointed out that not long after Obama got re-elected a majority of college age youths then wished that they could have their Anointed One recalled from office. So the Dem Party has probably lost them for at least the next two election cycles. Blacks? It doesn't matter because where the hell are they going to go? It will be Hillary (or some Dem candidate) or nothing. The Dem Party leadership OWNS most of them so far as voting loyalty goes and so in relative terms they are a non-issue. Since Hillary is not Black and she DID once have the audacity to run against Barack Obama, however, she will only get around 85 percent of their votes at most.

It's going to be the independent voters who matter and they have been so badly burned by Obama -- and most of them probably think that Hillary is a sleaze bag -- that despite the bulk of the MSM cheerleading for Queen Hillary they are unlikely to let the left-tilted MSM do their thinking for them yet again unless the GOP ends up running someone genuinely revolting (as opposed to the left-tilted MSM simply SAYING that he or she is revolting).

So my current sense of the 2016 race is that it's probably going to be the GOP's to lose. The best that Hillary and Bill can do is position her to take advantage of any major stupidity on the part of the GOP's leadership or candidate . . . but unlike in 2008 and 2012 it will probably have to be genuine stupidity and not something that the left-tilted MSM simply declares to be stupid. People were just that harshly BURNED by the MSM and by Barack Obama. Lies and blatantly biased political propaganda just won't cut it in 2016 . . . well not by themselves, that is.

 

According to your speculation concerning the significance of race it voting choices, that would be a minuscule percentage at most:

93% of Black Americans voted for the Democratic candidate for president in 2012.

95% of Black Americans voted for the Democratic candidate for president in 2012.

88% of Black Americans voted for the Democratic candidate for president in 2004.

90% of Black Americans voted for the Democratic candidate for president in 2000.

84% of Black Americans voted for the Democratic candidate for president in 1996.

83% of Black Americans voted for the Democratic candidate for president in 1992.

89% of Black Americans voted for the Democratic candidate for president in 1988.

91% of Black Americans voted for the Democratic candidate for president in 1984.

 

Yes, that is the standard the preponderance of the American electorate has and, presumably, will apply.

Smear tactics have not worked in the past. Those who get in a tizzy over Mrs Clinton will still need to nominate an alternative that more Americans will prefer.

 

Since I have never expressed your proposition, there is no reason for me to defend it.

 

Hire a thousand good looking ladies and have them march completely naked.

I know i'd be excited.

 

She has to get the nomination. That's about it. Once it's just her and a Republican with a real shot at winning, she will win with ease. I say that because even if there were a truly formidable general election GOP candidate, they would have zero chance at winning the nomination because "they're a RINO!" lol I seriously wouldn't be surprised if conservatives nominated Ted Cruz. If they did, Hillary could stop campaigning and still win easily.

 

Because that's the way it works in America, women and blacks have everything, the poor white man don't stand a chance...

 

Grubby cards, SSI (Not SSDI), ACA, What else can we cover that is wasting the money of those who earned to feed those who are worthless?

Liberals - Everyone needs free stuff

Conservatives - Work for what you want

^^ ever wander why dem's keep getting elected? Because they play the "your poor you need a hand out" card.

 

Ditto. I've often wondered what became of Peggy Joseph. We need a follow-up story on her.

 

Actually we get elected because the conservatives destroy the economy......