What can we do to win back voters in California?

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  1. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Looking at Wikipedia which is not always the most accurate but it does paint a good picture of who voted for who in California and let's face it. The Republican party and Trump did poorly here. I would like to figure out a way to change that. How can we better connect with voters in California?

    Take Orange County for example. It is said to have some very conservative cities and always votes Republican but not this election. Registered Republicans outnumber the Democrats by 140,747. That is a difference of 10.1%. There is also a lot of independent voters here. Yet Hillary took the county with 609,961 votes to Trump's 507,148 votes. Orange County has not voted for a Democrat since 1936 if Wikipedia is right.

    Orange County may be forever lost to the liberals if we don't fight for it.

    Now Los Angeles is obviously the biggest country for voters where Hillary took more than 2 million votes compared to Trump's less than 1 million. A low number of people according to Wikipedia which could be wrong voted in Los Angeles. California used to be a Republican state but due to big cities and the cry baby super stars in Los Angeles it has become one of the most Democratic states in the country. The city of Los Angeles is only part of the problem. Most of the counties that Trump took was won with only small leads.

    The state has a massive Latino population who support the Democratic party for obvious reasons. Many of them are illegal and don't want to be sent back to Mexico.

    • The Hispanic population in California is the largest in the nation. About 15 million Hispanics reside in California, 27.1% of all Hispanics in the United States.
    • California’s population is 39% Hispanic, the second highest Hispanic statewide population share nationally.
    • There are 6.9 million Hispanic eligible voters in California—the largest Hispanic statewide eligible voter population nationally.
    Wikipedia also says this about California:

    My wife is from California and I love the state even though it is overcrowded and full of illegals. There is many obstacles to overcome and I am not sure if tv ads or campaigning in California would be enough. The schools and media have many brainwashed over there. The Democrats and liberals are going to continue to win California and increase their registered voters if we don't fight for the state. We may have the majority of farmers but they are not enough to win back the state.

    So what can we do to win back voters for the Republican party? Any ideas?
     
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    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    California has imported millions of undocumented democrats. Its over here. Only ICE can save California from becoming another Mexico.
     
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    Ca is ruled by liberal LA, SF and Sacramento. Areas in between are Conservative.
     
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    I live in the beautiful far north rural part of California. Where I live the county and largest city there went for Trump 65%-29%. This is why those few of us living in the part of California north of the Bay Area and north and east of Sacramento are pressing our efforts to secede from californication and create America's 51st state, the great state of Jefferson!
     
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    The Republican party should do what it always does. Blame immigrants and poor people for all the troubles of America.
     
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    It would literally take a catastrophic earthquake, which separated CA from the rest of the nation, a huge natural disaster, with hundreds of thousands deaths, forcing people literally into fighting to just save their families and themselves, dishing out adversity like never seen before in modern American history. Such an event would destroy the luxury of faux liberalism and faux progressivism and smarten these people up, snatching their rainbow unicorn minds back from the stratosphere, and slamming them on the hard earth of reality. Yep, clean their act right up in a jiffy.
     
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    Kinda hard to compete with the drugs of socialism and immorality once they've reached a critical point.
     
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    Yeah but every vote matters and if we do nothing we are giving up the fight. The left liberals do not deserve to have any states. Maybe the Republican party needs to start campaigning there to stop the brainwashing of the liberals and hollywood. Any votes we can get will help.
     
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    The Republican party blames illegal immigrants for some of our problems. There is a difference. We do not blame poor people for anything unless you have proof to back up your claim?
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe but they did not support Trump and Orange County which has a big Republican advantage did not support Trump this election. We are losing voters in California and the conservative counties are not so conservative anymore. If we do nothing it may be impossible to get California back and they will use the state to continue the argument the Electoral College needs to be removed because with that state they may always have a higher total vote lead in the elections. California has a lot of voters and they matter. I'm not ready to give up on them.
     
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    A lot of registered Republicans in California did not even vote for Trump. It's not just liberals and independents. We are losing voters too. We can't give up on them. If the EC is ever removed we will need every vote we can get or the radical left will take over and we will lose our voice.
     
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    The first thing Republicans have to do to win over Democrat dominated districts is do something positive for legal citizens in those districts. "But how do they do that when at the state level its being managed by elected Democrats?" The answer is simple, change must be enforced on the Federal level in areas where it does not violate State government. That means it must be a National policy. Right now all of these Conservative blocks that you mentioned above feel compelled to elect local Democrat government to provide sanctuary for illegal family members to gain quick citizenship. I'm not suggesting Republicans adopted that policy. What I am suggesting is that Trump imposes exactly what he campaigned on and make illegals "illegal", and that he further enforces that by criminalizing harborers and prosecuting them. Any first generation harborers should be stripped of their own citizenship (immediately detained, all property seized, and awaiting deportation back to their last known place of foreign residency (unless they qualify as displaced persons themselves, in which case they should be treated in the same regard as natural born citizens). Natural born citizens that harbor illegals should be prosecuted under:

    Section 1071 makes it an offense to harbor or conceal any person for whose arrest a warrant or process has been issued, so as to prevent the fugitive's discovery and arrest, after having notice or knowledge that a warrant or process has been issued for the fugitive's apprehension. An offender is subject to imprisonment for not more than one year, unless the warrant or process was issued on a felony charge, or after conviction of the fugitive of any offense, in which case the offender faces a maximum term of imprisonment of five years. In addition, the fine provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3623 are applicable for harboring offenses committed before November 1, 1987, and the fine provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3571 are applicable for offenses committed on or after November 1, 1987.

    Section 1072 makes it an offense to willfully harbor or conceal a prisoner after his escape from the custody of the Attorney General or from a Federal penal or correctional institution. An offender is subject to a maximum term of imprisonment of three years, and a fine under Title 18.

    That can be done right now, the next step take time because it requires an Amendment added to the US Constitution repealing (or modifying) the the 14 Amendment of the Constitution to eliminate the anchor-baby loop-hole. With new wording that states "only persons born of naturalized citizens shall be considered citizens..."
     
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    We need to work on removing ALL illegals in California. The Latino population is huge and my wife grew up in California and she knows many of them are illegals. It's to bad California is trying to protect them.
     
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    That is a great start. Trump needs to make illegals "illegal criminals" and actually start mass deporting them. Any liberals that try to protect them should go to prison. It's time to stop being nice and go after these criminals. I say do it and watch the Democratic voters there disappear.
     
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    The next thing Trump can do on the Federal level is stop catering to undocumented non-US citizens. First of all we shouldn't have to push a button to get English on automated calls to avoid a default Spanish. We need to make English the nationally recognized language, and mandate it on all legal documentation. Next, we need to stop treating non-citizen with the same freedoms of privileged and immunity only citizens should enjoy (no more "free" public education for non-citizens, no more "free" healthcare for non-citizens, no more employment for non-citizens, no more library cards, driver's licences or US identification cards, no more social security numbers, no more housing, and no more services). Many other nations around the world already do this.
     
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    The damage to CA has been done by Democrats so we can come up with lists of the damage, point fingers at Democrats and nicely ask them to change sides. But we can't insult them.
     
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    We don't have to insult them, we just have to enforce the law.
     
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    I work with many Latino's and most of them are great people but most of them can't speak any english. I failed my spanish class and it is very hard for me to understand them. Some have been here for years and others for only months. If they are here legally I am all for it but if they are here illegally they need to go. Even the ones I consider friends. I'm not being racist but it is not fair to the legal citizens who can't find work because the jobs are taken by illegal immigrants. Trump needs to do what he said and start the mass deportations. If people want to live here they need to do it without breaking the law.
     
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    I lived in Los Angeles and worked in Santa Monica for awhile, and I'll say this; speaking Spanish is almost mandatory if you're seeking work in urban California. That needs to come to an end.
     
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    How can the Republicans win back California? Try not nominating freaks and circus acts as candidates to the White House.
     
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    One big electoral problem in California is the loss of the Primary System.

    California switched to a Runoff Sytem some years ago. It was an idea put forward by the Republicans themselves. Schwarzenegger was a supporter. There were 6-8 Republican candidate in the first round in 2016 which diluted their vote. The November race was between two DEMOCRATS who polled first and second in the first round.

    Republicans would have to decide on a single candidate before the primary in order to make the cut.

    With no candidates of their own on the ballot, a lot of Republican voters stayed home in November.

    The final vote tally in California was therefore tainted.
     
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    I think the current administrations proposed budget thst cuts Medicaid, food stamps, job training, and almost every program that is designed to help the poor in the ongoing effort to make the rich richer is all the proof anyone needs.
     
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    Break up California into 3 or 4 other states and if the leftness has a problem with it. Just tell them to ST#U and deal with it.
     
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    Didn't mean to be negative. Maybe instead of a winner take all electoral system, make it a percentage. That way, it would encourage more conservatives to vote if their vote would actually count.
     
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    My guess, when Californians realize that in the near future receiving 25 cents out of every dollar they earn isn't cutting it they will vote Republican.
     
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