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What Democrats are not telling you about Risk Protection Orders

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by kazenatsu, Mar 16, 2023.

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  1. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your misunderstanding belies the larger 'misunderstanding' that all gun-lovers in the US seem to have. That somebody who is potentially dangerous is no more dangerous with a mass killing weapon within easy reach. That the danger comes purely from within them and somehow that mass-killing weapon has not much to do with it.
     
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    a mass killing machine? where do the gun banners come up with such silly phrases. If you want to engage in mass killings, bombs are the bomb. Since you want to argue guns with those of us who understand them, at what point does a hand held firearm become a "mass killing machine" in the minds of the gun banners?
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh I think the psyche of the gun lovers is much more interesting..."hand-held" means can't kill a lot of people. Got it ;)
     
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    why not answer my question? are you unable to because you really don't understand firearms? or is it because your real motivation has nothing to do with public safety. I suspect both alternatives combine for the real reason
     
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    We can see plenty of the examples of something held in the hand killing scores of people at a time in the US. What my mind thinks is irrelevant. The fact that you ask straw-man questions like that is more interesting than my perceptions. Don't think I'll be baited by them.

    People who are considered too mentally unstable to own guns and decide to keep them anyway should be punished. Only the mentally unstable need to worry about these laws.
     
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    I take it you consider yourself mentally capable of owning a firearm. Good for you. We probably have nothing to worry about..
     
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    Are you able to tell us at what point a firearm becomes a "mass killing machine"? I know you really don't understand firearms or their uses but I need some amusement. Bottom line is this-when we strip away the BS, you want to ban just about every firearm
     
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    I suspect if it were left to you, you would consider anyone who wants to own a firearm to be "mentally unstable"
     
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    Ah, now I understand what you were trying to get at.

    As I thought, an attempt to bait for a strawman.

    This thread is about taking weapons away from mentally infirm, so they don't hurt themselves or others. My mouth is shut on what type of weapon can potentially be used to kill a lot of people (in this thread) because that's just a distraction from the topic of this thread...
     
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    I think I responded to you in another thread to say, paraphrasing, that your musings and neuroticisms are your business. You have fun with that :)
     
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    The dishonesty of gun banners is well documented. Most of us who deal with this movement understands why their arguments based on "public safety" are so pathetic: it is because public safety is only a facade they proffer in order to hide their true reasons
     
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    You think a mass shooters give **** if he violated a risk protection order?
     
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    What objective standard will be used to make that determination?

    Answer: there isn't one. A judge can put an RPO in anyone he wants and there's no appeals process. That violates the 1st Amendment.
     
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    False. The decision can be appealed to the circuit court in the county where the District Court is located.
     
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    He will care if he has the urge to shoot and doesn't have a gun on hand to shoot.
     
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    He'll get one somehow. When he does, you think he'll give **** about silly RPO?
     
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    Link?
     
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    Thus, they should be taken into custody.
    Thank you for making my point for me.
     
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    the entire premise of the gun banning movement is destroyed by that point--they pretend that those who are not concerned about the consequences of committing mass murder, will somehow be deterred by the much less serious consequences of using a "banned" firearm or magazine to help them perpetrate several counts of first degree murder
     
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    and if he is attacked by a fire breathing unicorn he might not either. Gun banning arguments always make the silly assumption that banning guns meaning those intending to commit mass murders won't be able to get a gun. Our moronic war on drugs and equally moronic prohibition proved such inane assumptions invalid
     
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