What do you make of "Omicron" (COVID Variant B.1.1.529)? Big deal? No big deal?

Actually they use an exception law to turn them back on the spot.

Do you happen to have a quote of Fauci saying what you claim he said?

 

You may be astute....in your own eyes, but why then attribute that comment to me? A little slight of hand?

 

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...7CAE7ED1FBDC6AFB140A7CA&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
So explain this away.....and I'm sure you will try. Fauci is an evil man. Highest paid bureaucrat in the nation and I am sure if the American Marxists ever get their way, he would run the concentration camps. Ever see anyone lying with such a happy, confident look?

 

We weren't. The United Kingdom was. That, if we don't count Russia and their early approval of the Sputnik V.

 

@Pollycy

More of the questions I mentioned to you in a previous post are getting answered and it doesn't look good.

@Statistikhengst posted this Twitter series by a scientist:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TWenseleers/status/1466501989500653568

First of all, there is confirmation of what I had said, Omicron's capacity to take over Delta. Infectiousness was preliminarily calculated at about 8.5 for the basic reproduction number, that is, 2 people with Omicron infect 17 others. That's huge, and above any of the strains we've had so far. We are getting closer to measles numbers.

Now, there is some preliminary data about antigenic drift, or how well Omicron evades the vaccines and/or immunity acquired from a natural virus infection. It seems to have an ability to do so that is 5 times bigger than Delta's, and to easily re-infect people who had Covid-19 before.

Then, how lethal: preliminary data had suggested milder cases (with the intervening factors I had mentioned, so we couldn't be sure of that, anyway), but now hospitalizations in Africa are ticking up at alarming rates, so maybe this won't be a milder version of the virus after all (remember that I said that hospitalizations lag behind, and deaths lag behind too? So now it seems like the situation is starting to change). I still believe that this part hasn't been demonstrated yet. South Africans have a high rate of HIV which when untreated is immuno-suppressing, and a low rate of Covid-19 vaccination in the 35% range (assuming that the vaccines will still at least deliver some protection against hospitalizations and death); it's a country with huge disparity with many South Africans living in poverty and in bad shape health-wise, so maybe the rate of hospitalization in other countries will be smaller, but it is certainly concerning to see it suddenly going sharply up in South Africa, negating the initial idea that Omicron was only yielding very mild cases.

If all of this is confirmed, boosters are urgently needed because some of the preliminary data suggest that for those with high titers of antibodies, the current vaccines are still effective against Omicron - but only for those, which is why we're seeing many if not most of the people who are being identified with Omicron in various countries, being fully vaccinated (but for the most part, not boosted) - before the anti-vaxxers start salivating, this doesn't mean that Omicron prefers the vaccinated. It just means that in these European countries with high vaccination rates from which tourists felt confident and traveled to South Africa, many came back infected - it suggests that Omicron bypasses the vaccines at least for infection - still to be seen for hospitalizations and death - and that the people who traveled were all vaccinated since international travel is more and more requiring proof of full vaccination - presumably the unvaccinated, if they had traveled, would have fared even worse.

Short of boosters, it would seem like adapted mRNA vaccines are urgently needed, and this scientist correctly suggested that approval for the adapted vaccines should be handled as rapidly as possible, including other mechanisms such as national and continental agencies allowing the updated shots to be given ahead of full approval, based on patient-initiated informed consent, or else, given the speed of spread (it's practically a vertical line, faster than any other previous variant) the updated vaccines will arrive too late.

Hm... OK.

This is all preliminary. These are calculations that can be called a bit speculative, not hard data (some of them; others are hard data such as hospitalization rates, percentage of Omicron in sequencing tests, and new cases in South Africa).

But I'll tell you this: if these speculations get confirmed, then, well, I'd feel a bit panicky, even though I recognize that panic is a counter-productive emotion that leads to harsh and impulsive actions that are less than rational.

I still put some hope in the new antivirals. They act against any variant, equally, since all variants need the mechanisms they inhibit. I think the FDA should expedite as much as possible, authorization to use Paxlovid, the one that seems most efficacious of the two that have applied for EUAs.

 

I didn't. You don't know how to read the quotes. That's on you, not me.

 

He is talking about testing. Do you have a quote where he said what you claim he said.

Evil man.....LOL. FOX compared him to nazis, and here you are repeating the lines.

 

I just read that they are going to make those at the border stay on the Mexico side of the border.
They should not allow immigrant in without knowing covid status. Can you source your concern? Unless it's your QAnon source, then don't bother.

 

LIFE has a 100% Mortality

No One Gets Out Alive


Moi
Neo Luddite
Go Ahead, vaccinate

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We will probably need up to five weeks to see what kind of effect Omicron will have on the mortality rate, assuming a 3 week period of sickness and hospitalization.

Even more concerning is the infection rate among young children. That scientist did not that most all of the infected kids, at least the initial cases, came from unvaccinated households, so logic would dictate that the amount of viral load is definitely a trigger for this variant, which should surprise absolutely no one.

 

Thank you so very much for your most recent assessment of the situation.

Even my wife, who tends to shun all contact with any information distributed on social media platforms paid a great deal of attention to your post after I showed it to her (which I almost never do).

We are putting back into practice all the measures we had adopted in 2020, and we're certainly glad we've both been 'boostered'.

BTW, I talked with a good friend in Germany today and he said that now he's been boostered, too. They have a fully digitized tracking system in Germany now which is a huge leap forward from the primitive 'paper card' system we have over here.

Again, Dr, Center, thank you so much for your invaluable help in figuring out what is real, and what is not....

 

So everyone coming or going will be vaccinated or tested. He said that so you give him brownie points because he makes you "feel safe". Does thousands of untested illegals that get entry including thousands of untested getaways make you feel safe?? Well we don't get to deduct "brownie points" because the evil man says it's a different issue. I call him evil, never called him a Nazi. Didn't repeat the Nazi line. Geniuses just think alike. You just don't know when your chain is getting pulled. Alec dodn't pull the trigger and Jussie really got mugged......those lines were made for you!

 

This last quote you made was sent to me by you. No one else. Is this Joe Biden I'm conversing with under the tag of Pro Line FL? It's either senility or dishonesty. If it's you Joe..... I'll forgive you. I understand your condition.

 

As of sunset on Friday, Dec. 3rd, Omicron is now in at least 10 states.

The news states that it is spreading noticeably faster than 'Delta'....

 

Well Dairyair, I heard they were talking about that and I hope that, since you just read it, it has come to pass. Isn't it comforting to think that Biden might be reinstituting that "Trump Policy"? He never had to undo it. Now if he would just do the same with the Keystone Pipeline and other things.

Any way, the damage has been going on for what, 11 months? The New York Times is a source you might accept (it's not MSNBC) but there are others that followed the same story. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/us/coronavirus-migrants-testing.html

Now you suggesting I have QAnon sources is getting pretty pathetic. If you could just steer clear of the American Marxist Media, I would not have to share so many of these things with you. You know, there are alternatives. Has your sources shared with you yet that Rittenhouse is not guilty and not a racist? Will the Jussie Smollet verdict be made known to you from your sources? Just wondered.

 

How many deaths from this scariant?

 

The QAnon reference is to oppose your lame Marxist claims in every post. It's getting pretty pathetic.

 

What's pathetic is you won't come out of that bubble. Is New York Times O.K. for you?

 

What's pathetic is you won't come out of that bubble.

And I did tell you this: They should not allow immigrant in without knowing covid status.

 

Omicron is causing hospitalizations in babies/infants/toddlers aged 1 to 4. That's concerning.
The FDA voted narrowly (13 to 10) to authorized Merck's molnupiravir, but the full data shows only 30% efficacy, and there is the issue of birth defects.
The full data for Pfizer's Paxlovid points to 85% efficacy, and no deaths in the treated group. So I have more hope for this one.
However it will take longer to get it approved, and the US government has ordered only 10 million full courses of treatment.
Pfizer is saying they will produce 20 million full courses of treatment (30 tablets each) in the first semester of 2022 and 60 million in the second semester.
Therefore, obviously it will take a long time for Paxlovid to be widely available, definitely not in time to curb the advancing Omicron.

 

You're welcome.

This said (meaning, what I said in my post), it's STILL not clear that a pessimistic outlook like the one I've just issued, will actually materialize. It's still too early to say. It's just that the initial optimism got countered by some bad news.

This evening I'm feeling less pessimistic than in the early afternoon. Today there were three pieces of good news:

One: while re-infection with Omicron seems to be extremely common, pointing to a first bout of Covid-19 not doing much to prevent a second one when it's Omicron, it seems like reinfection with Omicron is mild.

Two: fully vaccinated people with the existing vaccines who got Omicron (also seems to be a common occurrence) also had mild cases. Apparently it's the unvaccinated in South Africa that are driving the sharp increase in hospitalizations. So it would seem like the antigenic drift experienced by Omicron is pretty much throwing to the ground the ability of the vaccines to avoid infection (which was already declining with Delta and with more time passing since vaccination), but the drift has not been sufficient to avoid significant protection against hospitalizations/death.

Three: the FDA has announced that it will streamline the process of authorizing vaccines updated to curb Omicron, making simple requirements similar to the ones they used to approve booster shots. So if Moderna and Pfizer indeed come up with them in early 2022, the FDA is not likely to delay authorization.

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I think what's essential, is to observe what will happen in Western European countries and in the United States once Omicron takes over. Like I said, hospitalization rates in South Africa, a country plagued with HIV and with 35% of vaccination rate, and with large pockets of severe poverty, maybe won't translate the same way in First World countries. We'll see.

 

~ Regardless of the facts, this will be exaggerated and exploited for social engineering purpose .

 

Dear All
How many times have you heard
the new variant is more deadly than
the before one and
WILL YOUR VACCINATION (s) etc.
Really work or did we get suckered
into a carousel as with influenza.

Covid is more closely related to the
"common cold" virus than the influenza . . .

AND​

BOYS & GIRLS
a common cold virus vaccine does not
exist because the current virus mutates too quickly
for protection tomorrow!

OLD SCIENCE Here
Move Along



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Well I agree with that. They have let thousands in since Nov.'20 not to mention the unvetted Afghans they brought here.

 

Good posting, bro.

I will get boostered on December 9th. And yes, the digitalized tracking system makes this all so much easier.