What do you think of my Alternative Wall Theory?

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Do you basically like my Alternative Wall Plus Theory

  1. I suppose it has advantages over a carbon tax.

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  2. That is the dumbest idea I have ever heard.

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  3. No.... Mexico must pay for it...Canada has no part in it.

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  4. I supposed it could help us to cooperate more with Israel.

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  1. Margot2

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    Israel has destroyed the water table and the aquifers.
     
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    During the 1970's and '80's Israel knew that they were close to seeing the initiation of the completion of what Adolf Hitler had began so...............
    since the P.L.O. and her Russian allies were doing such an effective job of planning for
    genocide on the Jewish people......
    Israel resorted to rather drastic measures when it comes to making life somewhat challenging for Palestinians......
    I assume in the hope that the common Palestinians would get rid of Arafat and his team.

    It was a dangerous policy for Arafat, the P.L.O. and their Russian allies to
    put the Israelis up against the wall so tight that they were constantly in fear of
    losing a war.

    http://www.tldm.org/News9/RussianInfluenceOnMideast.htm


     
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    Now that Israel has a reliable ally in the White House they
    will be much more willing to come to an agreement that will
    directly benefit the average Jordanian and Palestinian.



    P. M. Justin Trudeau and a plan for Canada, Jordan - Israeli cooperation on....


     
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    The idea isn't to kill lots of Mexicans, though, but just to get back control of our own borders, and have migrant workers attain legal status so they will not be ripped off.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Altering Federal Reserve policy in such a way that can take
    the vast majority of Americans out of debt.... take the states out of
    debt....... and take the USA Federal government out of debt...... often
    needs to be connected to something concrete that people can easily
    understand and identify with.

    In 1940 Canada's P. M. Mackenzie King positively altered Canadian
    central banking policy in order to finance our participation in WWII at less cost to
    Canadians.

    In the 1860's President Abraham Lincoln altered central banking policy to
    finance winning the Civil War.


    http://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/politics/item/abraham-lincoln-and-john-f-kennedy
     
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    That's NOT what Netanyahu says. He's backed proposals to actually change the Israeli constitution to make non-Jews second class citizens before the law - further protecting and extending their version of apartheid.

    And, Netanyahu has been unwilling to take a pause in ethnic cleansing even long enough to negotiate with Palestinians - that being the primary immediate reason for failure in negotiations.

    Netanyahu, along with a large percent of Israel, is dedicated to the proposition of there NEVER being a nation called Palestine. And, their treatment of Palestinians demonstrates this direction - ruling them under Israeli military law (while Israelis living on stolen land are ruled by Israeli civilian law), and providing NO mechanism for Palestinians to be represented.

    Beyond that, Israel has plenty of desert and huge financial capacity compared to others in the region.

    So, I'll believe your "blossoming desert" idea when Israel does it for themselves.
     
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    The Palestinians sealed their fate years ago when they voted to be represented by a political party run by terrorists. No sane country will allow itself to slip under the control of such people.
     
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    Abbas is supported by the IDF as their partner in peace, and has been for a decade.

    Suggesting he's a terrorist just puts you out of the running as having even bothered to read the news.

    On the other hand, Netanyahu has moved toward a constitutional amendment to make all but Jews second class citizens - formalizing what is already an apartheid state. Plus, he continues to advocate for ethnic cleansing of West Bank, bulldozing the homes of residents there, stealing their property and destroying their farms as he rules them with his foreign military law.

    There is no way to pitch that as anything but evil. It breaks every tenet we of the USA believe in.
     
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    In the long run, if he can pull it off he will save quite a few lives on both sides. The present situation, or any situation which gives Palestinian terrorists a way to make Israelis easy marks, is not tenable and will eventually lead to more unnecessary bloodshed.

    The dispute is basically over land. If the Israelis keep the land of others, they need to pay for it.
     
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    It's also about those things WE believe in.

    Look what we fought for in our revolution.

    Then, consider what Palestinians have today as they live under foreign occupation military law in which they have no say and essentially no protection - under law where they can have their farms, homes and possessions taken from them by a foreign power.

    We didn't even like being TAXED!!

    We chose to fight to be rid of a government that was far superior to our own forces of revolution.

    We lost pretty much every battle and my bet is that we would have kept on losing battles until we finally prevailed. And, I don't know why I should think that Palestinians are worse than that when they are living under FAR worse conditions than were our own forefathers - who were not being subjected to ethnic cleansing by an occupation force.
     
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    They are essentially a tick that won't detach from its host. That doesn't give freedom to anybody.

    IMO it is worth whatever it takes to rid a society of Muslims that bring terrorism along with them. IMO it would even be worth another Inquisition. I have no problem with the Israeli position. They have had enough, and I don't blame them for holding to their position.
     
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    But... if the statistic is true that there are actually 4.3 TRILLION USA Petro-Dollars floating around out there that could be dumped on the market at any time then..........
    if Mexico or Canada would borrow them.....
    and begin plans for the Alternative Mexico - USA Wall..... then........
    this would be so productive as to not cause any devaluation of the USA Dollar.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/
    post #19....
     
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    Those 4.3 trillion USA Petro-Dollars out there floating.......
    combined with the desire of the leadership in Mexico to
    get along better with President Trump and his administration......
    could inspire Mexico to begin seriously discussing something this radical.......


    Especially since:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/page-3


     
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    Yep, they make good walls too. Give them Texas to settle as their new promised land.
     
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    Do you live in Texas yourself?
     
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    No. That's why I am happy to see it given it away.
     
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    I would like to see some of the driest parts of Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona and California turned green.......
    somewhat like......

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/israel-proves-the-desalination-era-is-here/

    Israel Proves the Desalination Era Is Here
    One of the driest countries on Earth now makes more freshwater than it needs
    .......
     
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    I highly doubt that desalination is cost effective.

    I like Israeli's underground irrigation.

    When we water our crops we spray it over the top of them, Israel, releases it under the surface. Straight into the soil. In this way much dehydration is skipped.
     
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    On the other hand......
    if you personally are really, really, really thirsty.......
    what is water worth to you under those circumstances?

    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/534996/megascale-desalination/

    Megascale Desalination
    The world’s largest and cheapest reverse-osmosis desalination plant is up and running in Israel.
    Availability: now

     
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    Personally.... I think that America, Canada, Israel and Australia need a mega- project.......
    or two or three or four of them......
    in order to keep the USA petro- dollar stable and strong.

    An Alternative Wall has serious potential.....
    when we want to delay those dollar being dumped by Russia, China and other nations......
    from coming into the USA too quickly.

    AboveAlpha was correct...... and Jim Rickards confirms the number as 4.3 trillion......


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...stralia-or-california.530861/#post-1069020199
    Should Sorek 2 be in Australia or California?

    https://pro.moneymappress.com/p/MMR...1525314934-571105120.1525314934&h=true&h=true

    FORGET IRAN, IRAQ, UKRAINE
    THIS IS WHERE WWIII STARTS...
     
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    Dude.......... if you only knew...... the power in your words........
    you would be more careful........
    you really need to watch The Secret on netflix.......
     
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    I found the comment to be rather informative though........
    Due to the fact that I live in the back woods of Nova Scotia I tend to not know as much about what was mentioned there as I should....... especially considering what we are now discussing?



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...nia-for-alberta.547506/page-2#post-1070026450
     
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    Maybe instead of building a wall, we just build a train from mexico to canada, and then see if canada will go in halfzies on the wall ;)
     
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