What do you think we'll find in the JFK files?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by modernpaladin, Oct 26, 2017.

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Whats in the JFK files?

  1. Nothing new, LHO did it alone

    60.0%
  2. Multiple shooters

    10.0%
  3. Cuba did it

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  4. Our government (or elements of it) conspired to kill JFK and frame LHO

    30.0%
  5. The Mafia did it

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  6. Rogue CIA did it

    10.0%
  7. It was The Fed (the banks)

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  8. The most elaborate suicide ever

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  9. Aliens.

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  10. Psych! Trump doesnt release the files.

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is supposedly releasing the rest of the files (300) in 180 days unless the agencies requesting their hold are able to make their case for 'national security'. Based on everything you've read, seen, heard and speculated, whats your prediction?

    I predict two or more shooters and the CIA was heavily involved if not entirely responsible for JFKs murder, and likely other agencies/officials as well.

    So make your predictions/theories heard here and now for all time, and lets see who was right (in 180 days) :)
     
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  2. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Considering that over 90% of the documents will still be withheld, by FBI and CIA requests, nothing new.
     
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    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Words and not much else.
     
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  4. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It looks like the agencies requesting a hold on the remaining 300 files have 180 days to make their case for 'national security.'

    Ill change OP to reflect.
     
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    I have a feeling that a) we will learn nothing new and b) it will be mostly redacted.
     
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    I did not vote because I read excerpts of some of the files in a newspaper. What I read is that in the aftermath of the murder, the USSR was concerned that they would be blamed for the wicked act and that I all that was commented upon in the same newspaper. I think that the entire truth will be held back, unless the documents are released to the public in a common area where all who are interested can read the unredacted portions of the documents.
     
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    It was 54 years ago.

    I honestly don't care.
     
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    nothing... it's Trumps attempt to distract from what's coming his way
     
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    The military industrial complex wasn't an option in the poll. I'd have voted for that
     
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    To be honest (and fair- and yeah, I know Trump loves to distract people, but....) this file release/dump was, I believe, due to a FIOAA request either from sometime during the Obama administration or earlier and Trump just didn't block most of it. From what I understand the CIA convinced Trump to not release roughly 300 files to the public.
     
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    If any of the smoking guns were written rather than spoken only, I doubt any such document made it out of the originating office door. imo few people still alive know, and the dead ones who know have every intention of keeping their secrets.

    I expect nothing significant from newly released documents.
     
  12. Pollycy

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    You cannot possibly watch the unedited Zapruder film and not realize that there were multiple shots that hit Kennedy. At least one from behind, and most definitely ONE FROM IN FRONT. Hint: Oswald could not possibly have been behind Kennedy up in building, and then, a few seconds later, in FRONT of him. Draw your own conclusion -- with both of your eyes wide open: .

    Maybe, just maybe, say, in another 50 years, the truth of who ordered this assassination will finally be revealed. But up to this point? Nothing but lies and manipulated bullshit.... You may enjoy this: https://www.history-matters.com/essays/frameup/EvenMoreMagical/EvenMoreMagical.htm :roflol:
     
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    Lee Harvey Oswald did it. Profound!
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Cancer Man did it, from the Sewer. Dammit, we all SAW it, on the X-Files
     
  15. Pollycy

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    Ever seen the full, unabridged, unedited Abraham Zapruder film of the actual assassination? Link:

    You cannot possibly watch this and still believe that Oswald was the only gunman. And, you cannot possibly still believe in the 'single-bullet' theory.

    Don't take what I say as being truth -- watch the actual film.

    Hint: there definitely WAS at least one gunman firing from somewhere in FRONT of the limo. Oswald could not possibly have been in two different places, hundreds of feet apart, less than five seconds later.
     
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    Vincent Bugliosi, the man who prosecuted Charles Manson, did an in depth analysis of everything. He came to the same conclusion I did. Oswald already had attempted one assassination, by himself weeks prior.
     
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    I don't dispute the likelihood that Oswald was one of the gunmen. But after watching the Zapruder film of the assassination, nobody can possibly believe that there was only one gunman involved. Did you look at the film from the link I provided earlier? First, Kennedy is shot from behind (ostensibly by Oswald, who was up in the Texas School Book Depository Building)... and then, a very few seconds later, he is shot explosively, right in the forehead, from in front! It's all as plain as day!
     
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    Exit wounds are always more dramatic when they exit due to bullet expansion. Kennedy's reaction was quite congruent with being show from behind. Do you think the Zapruder film was not a part of the study by forsenic experts that concluded Oswald was the lone gunman? I know Bugliosi studied it. Most of those people are way above my pay grade!
     
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    Have you seen this video of Vincent Bugliosi talking about his book?

     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Watch the Zapruder film again and take care to count the number of seconds (allowing for the display in slow-motion) between the time Kennedy first begins to grab at this throat (possibly the "Oswald" shot, from behind) and the time that he is blasted backward, with the bullet impact to the front of his head clearly indicated by pieces of skull flying off and a large splash of blood. In my own experience with 'shooting things', these movements are not consistent in any way with a single shot. There had to be another shooter, in front of the car somewhere, and it certainly wasn't Oswald....

    More important, though, than my subjective experiences with 'shooting things', the sheer amount of time between the two things I've pointed out make the single-shooter/single-bullet theories deliberate, misleading nonsense. The very laws of physics themselves as they apply on this planet obviate any such conclusion.
     
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    Yeah, its a good video to watch but I just wish it was longer.
     
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    Nothing new of significance because,
    "that's the way they want it".

    Not all the files were released.
    And even if they were, can we trust them after so many years under gov't care.

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g

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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    In govt, the bureaucracy is god. The records are there. Whether we get accurate ones is another story. Time will tell.
     

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