What do you think will become of the USA when leftist regain full control?

What is nebulous or boggieman-like about a succinct direct campaign promise to fundamentally transform the United States of America?

 

Get America out of another big recession?

 

I don't see anyone seriously trying to take all guns away. Yeah, sure, some people say that's what they want, but that's radical fringe, not the mainstream. What we have is a national problem with mentally unstable, generally young, men committing mass murder with firearms. We also have a solution, but the system is flawed. 90% of Americans want NICS fixed and kept up to date. Politically, that should be a slam dunk, but there has been zero movement on it, not even when 20 kindergarteners were murdered in their classroom. Since the Republicans have refused to deal with the issue, expect the 90% to look elsewhere politically.

What happened in 1970 for you to make the statement that someone has trashed the Constitution since then? I was in junior high then. I recall protests over the Vietnam War draft, the sexual revolution, putting a man on the moon, and desegregation of schools, but nothing that trashed the Constitution. I'm curious as to why you chose that time frame.

Of course protecting the Constitution is worth fighting for. We shouldn't have to fight each other over following it though.

 

Who made a direct campaign promise to "fundamentally transform the United States of America"? If you could provide a link to who they are and precisely what the promised transformation is, it would be helpful.

 

give left-wingers a pile of bricks and they will break windows, burn down buildings, overturn cars and destroy public/private property.

 

Same old same old most likely. Both parties are the same, they just serve different old white guys. The only difference is the special interests that bribe them on the side.

 

Obama, in Columbia, MO, about a week before the 2008 election, for one of many.

 

LMAO...give right-wingers a pile of bricks and they'll try to stone all the coloreds and hispanics to death...give left-wingers a pile of bricks and they'll build affordable housing for the poor.

 

That much I agree with. I have always sung. Even on the job. One of the joy of cnc machining was that once you had the program encoded, everything set up and operating correctly and you were down to the simple put in take out your mind was free to explore as it wished. Usually though I sang.. My song selection is to put it mildly a bit eclectic. Bits and pieces from Handel's messiah Beatles ballads, Kingston trio Peter Paul an Mary, Christmas songs,hymn and standards like Sliver bells, or Chestnuts roasting on an open fire stuff of my own some of which is a bit gospel, some a mix country and gospel, some of it just christian of no particular genre. I can remember standing down town with an old black street preacher singing the Battle Hymn of the Republic of which I know about two or three different arrangements. My baritone and his basso profundo seemed to work well together. Good times even if I was out of work.

 

That'll collapse on them three days later...

 

We were getting out of recession and depressions long before government decided to get involved. And these days mostly it's trying to fix problems it created all by itself

 

What does decade-old undefined, exceedingly vague, campaign rhetoric by a twice-elected popular ex-president have to do with unspecified intrigues of "leftist" boogie men?

Isn't the current president's promise to replace 'ObamaCare' with "something terrific!" healthcare that covers "everybody!" at "lower cost!" a far more timely, crucial, pressing, and decidedly specific concern for the future? How's that coming along?

 

Absolutely correct - this period is a lull before the storm.

During the obama years, the communists used the government regulatory agencies (IRS, ATF, OSHA, EPA) to attack their political opponents. obama illegally used executive orders to do an end run around the legislative process, and the communists in congress went with it.

And listen to what the communists are saying right now - Maxine Waters encourages people to harass Republicans wherever they find a Republican, they harass people in the SCOTUS hearings, their brown shirts in antifa and BLM and occupy use violence and physical intimidation. And that's just because they lost an election.

When they regain power, they will make sure they never lose another election, and they are going to skip trying to be subtle or have even a fig leaf of legality. Its going to get very violent.

 

Didn't vote. What they will do is to implement their agenda. SCOTUS is the only safety check.

 

What do you think will become of the USA when leftist regain full control?

First of all, it can't happen because some imaginary boogie man that someone has been trained to call "leftist" has never had "full control" of the USA.

Second, the governance of the USA is determined democratically, regardless of what anyone with an ideological agenda needs to label it.

 

Fair question. I had graduated school before the 1970s, and was released from forced being drafted (against the wording of the constitution of slavery and involuntary servitude). The list you give you is what I watched as it happened. We approved murder of children in 1973, Affirmative action in the 70's violated the 14th. Women's rights neutered the power of men, and started a war against white males against the constitution. The list goes on and on, and the attack state by state against firearms which they have no power to overrule the USA constitution. It keeps getting worse and worse. Even though for the most part, discrimination really ended in the late 1960s, the blacks are still demanding equal rights which they already have. Good lord, I could write a book.

 

No it is not! we are ruled by 9 UNELECTED TYRANTS, better know as the supreme court. All this protesting and such against the new court nominee proves that everyone knows it is. Old saying, "He who interprets the law, makes the law". This is the fatal flaw of the constitution, this for LIFE stuff.

 

A judiciary that is repugnant to the People is thwarted by the People's power to elect representatives that enact the laws the People demand.

 

Which US democrat said he/she admires Venezuela?

If you think the likes of JFK, LBJ, Carter, Bill Clinton, Obama, Hillary or even Bernie would be inspired by Venezuela, you'r out of your mind! None of them is close to being a communist.

 

What a convenient phrase "leftism". Painting everyone with the same brush is an unfortunate SOP on all sides.


Its like saying that a traditional conservative republican is the same as a radical racist right wing fascist fringe member. They are both rightists.

So it must follow to those that think it fair to paint all "leftists" as the same with shared goals and ideals, then its fair to paint all "rightists" in the same way.

When you think in bumperstickers the world is so much simpler.

 

Except for the draft, I think we see things very differently politically. I'll leave it at that, so as not to take this thread off on a tangent. Thanks for your reply. I was curious about your thoughts.

 

Theory, my man, IN THEORY, but not in practice.

 

I am simply a believer in reading the constitution AS WRITTEN. Don't make shitt up or ignore what is written for political/social gain, even if it threatens the union.

 

So, white racism against whites?

 

Control has been going back and forth for more than 100 years. Those changes do not need be "civil wars".

Both sides have been moving to their extremes recently; this is unfortunate.
It is possible, in many cases, to conduct policies that lean to one side, without necessarily completely upsetting the other side.
What's the point of having extremist policy, left or right, anyway? Every 4 or 8 years, a new administration comes in and starts undoing what the previous one has tried to do.

The country and its administration have the inertia of an oil tanker. Imagine it being steered to the left and then to the right all the time. Best way to hit an iceberg, imho!