What exactly has this president done to you personally that deserves your disdain?

Here’s a question for everyone to ponder…..

What, in your personal life, has changed, for the worse, since Barack Obama became the 44th President of the United States?

Mind all the stipulations below before you answer folks.

You cannot write back with stories about other people’s misfortunes such as friends, co-workers, lovers, or family.

You cannot relate or tie any negative things that happened to you personally that was not a direct result of anything the president or his policies did.

You have to stay on message and not go off on some crazy Birther, Truther, Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Despot, Muslim, Dictator rant.

You can’t talk about things that you assume will impact you in the future (regardless of how many times you’ve heard some whack-job senator on the steps of the capitol talking about your children’s future) because that’s all speculation & assumptions.

You cannot talk about what will impact your children’s future for the same reason listed above. (concentrate on yourself)

You cannot make claims of doom & gloom on anything that hasn’t happened yet (you will be called out on it)

You cannot tell us about a job that was lost due to something you, your company or its shareholders did.

In other words: you have to tell us exactly what has negatively happened in “your” life since January 20th 2009 – that is directly related or can be traced back to – something the president did.

I’m asking because I’ve been asking this question since he became president when most of the hysteria & assumptions about what he would do first started, and to date………….

I have yet to hear anybody, anywhere, give me concrete evidence of anything this president’s done, that has affected “them” personally.

Personally, my tuna fish still tastes the same, the skies are still blue, water is still wet, America is still here, my projects still need to be finished, and my wife still gets on my nerves from time to time. (as I am sure I still get on her nerves from time to time).

I believe this is true for almost every other American in this country.

So let’s hear it, what exactly has President Obama “done” to deserve your severe disdain of him?

I don’t want to hear what Glen Beck, Sean Hannity, Matt Drudge, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham thinks or has said.

I don’t want to hear about whacky conspiracy theories about blacks paying a lower tax rate than whites (which I keep hearing from the fringe folks) or about the president being smuggled out of Kenya the night he was born by some in-clandestine black-ops group that secretly knew that he’d run for president one day.

I want to know why so many folks hate or (severely dislike) this man so vehemently when nothing in their personal lives has been impacted by anything he’s done.

All intelligent, honest, non-race baited, non-hysterical, non-conspiracy theory answers will be replied to in a civil manner.

Remember the rules before you answer.

 

The problem is that some people irrationally hate him while some border on the cult of personality supporting everything he does. Didn't vote for him. Would never vote for him. Saying that,some are irrational in their hate for him,just as those on the left that hated Bush were.

 

A very silly premise to try to create this scenario where you can individually shoot down what anybody says in this thread. One does not need to relate to one's personal problems to know that unemployment rate and those no longer being counted is very high and has been for the entire Obama Presidency. Also nobody needs to relate to personal experiences to know that blowing the budget as Obama did in the first year and then not making a working budget there after is extremely negative and negatively affecting all people.

Everybody out of a job could come here and tell you one by one they are out of work because of Obama's ineffective economic policy and you would one by one try to blame Bush or the Republicans. But Obama is the President and the Democrats had control of both houses when the horrendous legislation of the STMULUS was enacted, that has put us in this endless economic stagnation.

 

I had to pose and set up the question the way I did or else I would get all of the crazy stuff that doesn’t relate to one’s personal life, and I think you’re intelligent enough to know that.

I don’t want to hear about downstream affects that haven’t taken place yet or see economic indicators with graphs.

Please do give examples of which economic policies the president and his administration enacted that have negatively affected your life.

If you can, and I think you’d be hard pressed to be able to, then I’m more than willing to hear your argument.

If not.............................................

In other words: did you personally lose a job because of something the president did that forced your employer to lay you off.

This is easy………what has the man personally done that ruined or negatively impacted your life – full stop…….

 

Solid, honest answer...................

 

Me personally? Not a thing. My life has not been affected by him in the least, positive or negative.

 

It has been an on going issue for a while - Political opinion is so polarized these days. Your guy is perfect, there guy is from the pits of hell. One is a fascist, communist, socialist, nationalist. Reality is none of them are any of these things. Go talk to people have really lived under these regimes and you soon discover how blessed you are with the leadership available in the USA. It is hate for no other reason than to hate

 

When Obama took office, the economy was tanking at a -9% real rate, losing 700,000+ jobs a month, unemployment was skyrocketing upward, and the stock markets were crashing in the worst recession in 80 years. The housing market was destroyed and the economy was headed straight for a depression.


But now the economy has been growing steadily for almost four straight years, the private sector has added more jobs every month for 39 months in a row, stock markets are up over 125% from their recession lows to all time record highs, the unemployment rate has fallen from 10% to 7.5%, and over 7.2 million additional private sector jobs have been added since Jan 2010.

And this despite an obstructionist Tea Party Republican party whose stated top priority is not to work with the president to improve the economy but get him out of office.

Seems kind of lame to hold Obama in disdain when over 7 million new additional jobs have been created in the last 3 1/2 years.

So how do you feel about Bush? Have you checked his record on jobs?

 

A big part of my fun is recreational shooting. Twice since the Obamanation has been in office, we have experienced an ammo drought. The second one began just about a year ago, and is still happening.
Part of the problem is that people are buying up available supplies and reselling them at inflated prices. The other part of the problem is that we have been conditioned to expect terrible things. On his watch, FEMA and police departments across the country have militarized to the point where the public perception is that they are anticipating huge civil unrest. On his watch, "Drone Zones" have been established, where cities are offered incentives in return for allowing "spy drones" to operate in their airspace.
No other POTUS in my time has paraded children on camera in an effort to compromise the Constitution. No other POTUS in my time has gone on record with such divisive remarks as "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon". This certainly does impact me, as I have to deal with the social tension he invokes.
His immigration issues. Are there many Americans who do not live with illegal aliens in their midst?
These are just the things that come off the top of my head.
Around here, we don't say "Oh Dear", or "Oh Man". We say Oh BAMA!

 

haven't you guys seen those rallies involving tea party activists? it almost looks like the klu klux klan. They demand that he puts down the quran, stop worshipping Allah, leave the Country and go back to his home Country Africa.

 

Why not ask me to tell you why anything or anyone deserves disdain and then make the conditions for reporting so exclusive of everything that is wrong with the subject that your question appears to be a joke?

I protest and reject your stipulations.

However, as a member in good standing IN ADDITION to being a donor, I reserve the right to comment in this thread as I choose. And shall do so, within the rules of PF, until I no longer can or care to.

Your nickname suggests a reasonable person, but I gotta tell ya' that list of yours is a classic indication of liberal hard wiring.

LOL

 

Hahahaha! This sounds exactly like Obama 'negotiating' with the Republican Party leadership. "Sure I'll negotiate . . . but only as long as the Republicans do exactly what I tell them to do."

Personally Obama has done nothing bad to me except that his dismal grasp of economic policies and capitalism has made everything one purchases skyrocket in price and he has managed to increase the degree of national debt to 16 trillion dollars and counting. I sort of don't like those items, but I can't imagine why.

 

He's black. They can claim that it's policy all they want, but most of us know better.

How many Tea Partiers were there before Clinton Became President? I think it was about the same as before Obama became president. Having a black President in the WHITE house was too much for the some people.

Yeah, I played that card.

 

The Tea Party did not even exist until the last year or two of G.W. Bush's presidency and they formed because they did not like that Bush sunk this nation so deeply in debt. You expect them to like the fact that Obama at least doubled Bush's debt?

As for the kneejerk leftwing playing of the race card . . . Sheesh!

 

That kind of ignorance is jolly good fun to clash with and thrash against but have you read some of the other members who've announced their intention to leave PF and find a new forum to inhabit...one with a higher class of intellect or conversation and debate?

If so, what's your take on that issue?

 

What matters is jobs and there has been no real upward movement on that front for the entire Obama administration. The only reason there has been any "fake" decrease in the unemployment rate has been because people have given up looking for work and are not being counted. This is the entire reason and the false numbers are a lie that makes the statistics look good and thus makes it look like we actually emerged from our recession when we really have not.

 

Thanks for sharing your opinion. But I think that over 7 million private sector jobs added in the last 3 1/2 years is real upward movement.

Have you checked what the private sector job numbers where for our last Republican president by way of comparison?

 

Before you leave for those highfalutin forums where people have a higher class of intellect, you may want to look at this.

I stated my thesis. I supported it. You haven't disproved it. It's still there.

 

Nothing.. The economy was in free fall before 9-11 in the second quarter of 2001... and the housing bubble was a certainty for everyone but idiots.

 

We are adding about 2.7 million people to the US population each year so in 3.5 years we have added about 9.45 million people, so those piddly jobs did not even keep pace with the population growth. It is negative growth in jobs. That negative growth is made to look like a decrease in unemployment only because people have given up looking for work and are no longer counted in the stats.

 

He is destroying this country and if that doesn't alarm you, what would?

 

Yeah the race card bit. There's a word for it: Projection.

 

It's about 2.1 million and they aren't all born wanting a job.

I didn't say anything about unemployment. I just pointed out the fact that there have been 7.5 million private sector jobs added over three years.

Now if that is a "negative" job growth to you, what would you call the decrease of 700,000 private sector jobs while Bush was president? Would that be a double negative job growth? Or two negatives making a positive so that would be "positive" job growth in your world?

 

Ridiculous, People are moving form teenager to adult at the same rate. The population is growing and your pointing out a job rate that is actually negative.

 

Well actually there are more people moving into retirement age. But we don't need to nit pick.

Now if that is a "negative" job growth to you, what would you call the decrease of 700,000 private sector jobs while Bush was president? Would that be a double negative job growth? Or two negatives making a positive so that would be "positive" job growth in your world?