What happened to peace and abundance?

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have the U.N. and the U.N. has a proposal for a truce tribunal.

    And abundance should lead to peace.

    Taking one example we now grow about 5 times as much corn per acre as in 1940, so about the same energy is used for plowing, for sowing, and for harvesting, but 5 times the output.

    Pretty much everything is now being done more efficiently.

    And there are new ways of powering vehicles and for doing so many things.

    We can communicate more quickly and with less energy by using Zoom meetings.

    This is a bit broad brush I realize but

    - What happened to peace, abundance and happiness?
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This may seem really naive but why does Joe Biden want to go to war with China, and N Korea, and Iran, and he still wants to continue fighting Russia and Syria?

    If anyone can control him it should be the citizens of the US.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Food Abundance?

    We've made reductions in fertilizer allocations for farms, in order to help meet the objective of zero carbon emissions by 2050.

    As with so many decisions handed down from our rulers, 'You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs'

    So in order to have an omelette in 2050 there are going to be some eggs broken this winter.

    Cuts to Agricultural Production in Netherlands.png
     
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    Why do you think he wants to go to war with all those countries? He pulled some military forces out of Afghanistan, to big controversy last I read. He doesn't seem eager for wars.
     
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    That was on Aug 30 2021. I read about that on this forum and a poster wrote 'then he's getting ready for another war'.

    The next one has so far been and will most likely remain, primarily a proxy war.

    The Afghanistan war was an unqualified success just as politicians said it would be - all 98 Senators present voted for it and only one of the Representatives voted against it, and that was for technical reasons.

    Never before have we been so unanimously in favor of anything.
     
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    Most of your government leaders supported it, yes. But I wouldn't call it success. You accomplished very little with it and many died because of it.
     
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    99.8% of the politicians present voted for it. They can't all be wrong.

    Or if they are, maybe the goofballs voting for war in Ukraine are wrong... no, they've been wrong so many times that this time they must be right.
     
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    Yes they can.

    Lol for a moment there I didn't detext the sarcasm.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is equivalent to sarcasm, but I don't create and rarely repeat sarcasm.

    The 99.8% data came from wikipedia and then I concatenated on to it a statement made to me by a well-educated and apparently impartial person - that if 'both houses agree on something then they know they've got it right.'

    that's how it happened, but yes, it did end up as sarcasm.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This part is based on a popular intuitive understanding of probability, a fallacy in fact, that if you flipped a coin and got heads four times in a row, that the next flip was almost certain to produce tails.

    So it's a sort of weak sort of joke.
     
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    Not everyone wants peace while many others are only concerned about their in group’s happiness and abundance.
     
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    A recent Gallup Poll showed Inflation and the Economy was the top priority for the public.

    Wars cost a fortune, increase the national debt, and with the exception of WW2, are inflationary.

    Before the end of the War in Vietnam, the US dollar had to leave the gold standard, and from then on, with more and more wars, inflation has become a way of life.

    I don't think the public is as keen on war as the government is, and the media is.
     
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    Do we fully understand the nature of the UN?
    Have a look at Agendas 21 & 30.
    https://sdgs.un.org/publications/agenda21
    https://sdgs.un.org/2030agenda

    As you read through both, you'll probably think not much of them, but it is the language used that is deceptive. There are various sites that interpret the "agendas", I'll let the reader find out about that themselves.
     

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