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  1. Leffe

    Leffe New Member

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    Gay are all part of gods plan...........


    To test whether christians really do love one another.

    Just a thought.

    Could be one of them there tests he runs on us.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not according to the Bible.
     
  3. Leffe

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    He works in mysterious ways and jesus said to love people.

    Which bible are you working from...
     
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    Why would it only be a test for Christians if God loves everyone?

    What if some people were given homosexuality to test whether or not they could resist temptation?

    Just a thought.
     
  5. Leffe

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    Exactly! Who knows? But we do know that jesus said to love everyone and that the Old Testement warned of men laying with men. So it's all a bit odd. What it didn't say however, was t hat men who don't lay with men, should hate the men who do.
     
  6. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    "Do not lie with a man as you lie with a woman, for that is detestable" -Somewhere in Deuteronomy if I recall correctly.
     
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    Heres another question...Why should anyone give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what the bible says or doesn't say?
     
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    Every one in this thread cares about what gay people do. Does that make you gay? I say yes.
     
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    What makes you think I give a damn about what gay people per se do? I don't, trust me. I don't care at all. Totally unfounded assumption.

    Nevermind that gay means happy, and let's use the homosexual meaning of it. So do you know what homosexual means? Sexual attraction towards someone of the same sex. homo gr. same, sexual lat. pertaining to sex. Homosexual doesn't mean 'caring about (*)(*)(*)(*)'.
     
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    You seem to know a lot about it. ;):hug:
     
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    I am not religious usually try to avoid the topic, but I am bored and may learn something. It will be interesting to see who uses the old testament in this instance and avoid everything else it forbids.
     
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    I think they do it different. Is it ok if they stand up?
     
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    Way to try and kill a debate LOL. I have been married almost 20 years not gay under either definition of the word. Is every one that has a opinion on same sex marriage gay?
     
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    I am of course a verbophile: A lover (scientifically) of words.
     
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    I would say if you care anything about it, then yes.
     
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    I don't know actually. I don't know if the original book in hebrew or whatever language it was written in used the word lie, or dropped the figurative speech and and used 'have sexual intercourse with'. Perhaps the english translations preferred more figurative speech, but I don't know. If the original hebrew also used the word 'lie' I suppose a case can be made that they are free to screw as long as they stand up.
     
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    When they acare about the global persecution of a specific demographic, driven by the bible?

    - - - Updated - - -

    And you seem to be accusing people of being gay, because they don't like persecution.
     
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    I've repeatedly made this point and they always avoid it; they love bacon tooo much to care what god thinks on the matter.
     
  19. Texsdrifter

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    I was more interested in the using the old testament to be against it. I guess there must be far more homosexuals than most sources report. I honestly do not care if it makes them happy and does not hurt me so be it. Yet under your reasoning they should just work it out on their own?
     
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    The persecution comes from people who aren't gay, aren't necessarily going to be gay (sometimes..though we've seen the strictist homophobes come out as gay) and those who have nothing better to do than bash gays because their bible tells them it's okay to hate.

    Again, most of the people against gay marriage fall into one of these three categories. Not a single person can give any reason why gay couples shouldn't be allowed to marry other than rhetoric originating from a book that also says you should be stoned to death for wearing clothes of two different cloths or eating shellfish.

    i frequently see these people eating lobster and clam chowder while wearing 50/50 cotton/polyester blend shirts.
     
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    Translation: I'm a bigot and don't care who knows it. I would gladly stone to death a f____t any day of the week.

    Good on you Texsdrifter. You are an awesome christian living as Jesus taught. Have fun in your hell, btw. ;)

    EDIT: I'm going to leave up this original reply to Texs, I think i read your post wrong, pal. If I did, then ignore. If I didn't, then please, read and heed. ;) This is really more towards pius people who have no idea what they're talking about. I read your post after this and apparently you are aware of the contradictions in the bible and know that Jesus was the biggest hippie ever to walk the earth. ;)
     
  22. Texsdrifter

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    Most usually say Jesus changed that. It is deeper than just pork. Shrimp, lobster, and crab many more foods that are not as common. Petting a dog or another unclean beast. Using condoms, pulling out, or masturbation. It would be a long list if they follow it all.
     
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    You do not read the other posts in a thread do you? I will ignore your mistake you should not assume as much as you do.
     
  24. hseiken

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    I edited my post as you replied to it. It's late, please forgive me, but I left it up so that people can still feel shame for claiming to be Christian while being quite the opposite. My apologies, Mr./Ms. Texs.
     
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    It would be Mr. But you can call me Tex. No problem everyone make mistakes no hard feelings.
     

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