What Is The Difference Between Impeachment For Trump, Versus Previous Presidents?

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    The difference between the House impeachment of previous President's and President Trump is tow fold:
    1. Previous President's were afforded due process. Their attorney's were allowed to question witnesses and call their witnesses!

    2. Impeachment was bi-partisan, as there were members of their own party that voted for impeachment! This impeachment is the first partisan one!
     
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    Previous presidents permitted witnesses and the introduction of subpoenaed documents which this president has denied!!!!
     
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    They were only allowed to call witnesses approvedl by Schiff. And he denied most of the requests.
    Next.
     
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    Of course, the democrats would have liked the president to have laid down and played dead. But the impeachment doesn't have the power to neuter the target of their attack- and it is up to them to prove charges in line with constitutional requirements. They haven't of course, and they know it. Hell they couldn't even decide what to charge him with, and this sideshow is just the latest in a string of efforts to destroy the president- all of which have fizzled, leading to increasing anger and frustration and tantrums, like small spoiled brats not getting their way. It's kind of like when your gang has already shot at someone a dozen times and missed, then you demand the target hold still and volunteer to let them kill you.... because they think that's fair. It's become a ludicrous sideshow.... They have proven themselves to be a herd of jackasses, and nothing they do should be seen as legitimate. These people are doing damage to the entire system of justice, not to mention setting a horrible example and precedent for the nation.
     
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    The PRESIDENT regardless of party should be subject to every law that the average citizen is subject to,without exception.NO MAN OR WOMAN IS ABOVE THE LAW!!!
     
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    Dey was gonna impeach Clinton...

    ... but den dey lost interest in it...

    ... prob'ly `cause Hillary stole the votes.

    Lock her up!
     
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    Once again criticize process don't attempt to prove innocence or guilt through facts. Both sides here are only interested in the politics.

    Those that want a chance for witnesses and cross examination and due process to exonerate the President, now is your chance, or is it too late?
     
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    What Is The Difference Between Impeachment For Trump, Versus Previous Presidents?

    This is the first one that is completely partisan and the first without a crime.
     
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    The average citizen doesn't have the power to obstruct congress.
     
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    21st century version of the Salem Witch trials.
     
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    You obviously either don't know, or don't care what article two of the Constitution says! It states, 'When there is a conflict between Congress and Executive Branch, either party may seek remedy in the federal courts.' Congress sought documents that Trump claimed 'Executive privilege.' Instead of waiting for a court decision, the House decided to charge Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of justice against Trump for exercising his Constitutional right! This is not only ridiculous and absurd, but they have lowered the bar for future impeachments, including a democratic President! For the record, every President in my lifetime has claimed 'Executive privilege' and the federal courts have never ruled against a President! Try to remember what goes around, comes around!
     
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    Previous Presidents were not allowed to block witnesses and documents

    Trump was invited to the white house and his staff, Trump refused - he can still testify at the Senate if he wants too

    republican choose to defend Trump rather then on the evidence

    Trump admitted his crime on camera and republican still voted no

    in Trump's own words what he wanted from the call

    the reporter asked him, he answered..... all on video

     
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    what Christians did back then was horrible and in no way compares to impeaching Trump for something he in fact did do
     
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    Well we hear the GOP saying this impeachment will be over in two weeks or less, yet they spent five weeks impeaching Clinton for lying about a BJ in a civil lawsuit??
     
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    The other two impeachments were crime based, although Johnson's crime(s) were a setup/entrapment by the congress.
     
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    One thing for sure -- The impeachment of Trump is just to hurt Trump.
     
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    In your opinion, would the investigation into the Bidens be in part to hurt the Bidens?
     
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    The Bidens investigation would be to prosecute criminal activity, already admitted to by stupid Joe, and if it hurt the Bidens, so be it.
     
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    Actually he denied two requests as irrelevant - the Bidens and the whistleblower. Anybody with two functioning brain cells would have denied this junk. The two witness the Republicans brought blew up in their faces when put under oath. I was hilarious.
     
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    So, in turn they called up witnesses who had no direct knowledge, only opinions. Since the defense was claiming that Trump wanted to investigate corruption, then you question the people who you think might be corrupt like the Biden's. If I remember correctly, the republicans asked for eight witnesses and only one was approved.
     
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    Another difference: Johnson was impeached by a bipartisan supermajority in the house and was still one vote shy of conviction in the senate.
     
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    Bottom line -- Trump will not be impeached in the Senate. But sadly the dems will not let it rest. That's OK because some of them will now not be reelected. Talk about a circle firing squad.
     
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    Republicans are hard at work trying to make this President ABOVE THE LAW. Their actions now will have lasting ramifications into the future.
     
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    1. What crime is that?
    2. If Biden committed a crime why do we need a foreign power to announce they will investigate it? Why can't we investigate?

    In your opinion would Trump's investigation into President Obama's birth be in part to hurt President Obama?
     
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