What is wrong with "slut shaming"?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Dayton3, Dec 29, 2019.

  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did not say you were either Nazi or Feminist - and Nazi - Feminists are not Nazi's either. All I said was that your argument was out of the Nazi Fembot playbook.

    The "Sexual Object" narrative is a silly narrative - sorry - but a spade is a spade. Men do not view women only as sexual objects - Almost all men view women in part as sexual objects - myself included - and there is nothing wrong with this - its called nature.

    You then go on to state that "No one can deny that Abstinence fosters a health individual" I for one deny this - sex has been shown to be good for one's health - mentally and physically.

    I get the puritan ideology you are coming from - I just do not agree with some of your conclusions and generalizations.
     
  2. Ritter

    Ritter Well-Known Member

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    I have never seen any Feminist representing my case.

    Yes, this is what I am saying; go and find yourself one sexual object and stay with her 'til death. :)

    Excess sex with excess partners has been shown to be bad for one's health. Especially for women.

    I do not consider myself particularly puritan. I am all about love and all about fighting hedonism. I am pro-civilisation and anti-savagery.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    You mean that very small proportion of those suffering from generational poverty (I'm assuming generational poverty is your target, because it'd be weird if it weren't)?
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which side is which? I have not met many from either side of the aisle that objected to sex.
     
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    tealwings Well-Known Member

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    Actually that was mainly my point. The skyrocketing costs of college is also a concern.
     
  6. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    People get upset about the double standard in the sense that guys are usually praised or given a pass when they are promiscuous, and woman are judged harshly. To me, consenting persons engaging in sexual activity is not shameful at all. Judging them for that is ridiculous and immoral. The core of immorality is harm to other people, and having multiple sexual partners in itself does not inherently harm anybody.
     
  7. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    disagreed.
     
  8. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    lol, well I'm not surprised, but what's your reasoning? I guess if you're pro-life, you're going to end up with that stance.
     
  9. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Even absent the pregnancy and abortion issue I believe premarital sex is damaging to establishing families in the long run which damages society as a whole.
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Huh, didn't anticipate that one, but it's true that used to be the general wisdom in earlier generations. I don't think there's any cause and effect there though - only the association that somebody actually willing to do that these days starts out with dedication to establishing a family and sticking to it. If anything premarital sex makes it easier - you know what's out there and that it's not that different, and then having sex early helps establish whether you're compatible in that way before you fully commit at the "risk" of having more partners in the long run. Then if you have that compatibility, that's one fewer reason to want to leave when you do have kids. Rather than finding out after you're already married that one person would rather have sex less than once a week while the other gets upset if it's less than daily. I would ask you to provide data, but I'm not sure if it would establish who's right since, as I said, the association probably is there without it being an actual cause.
     
  11. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Sexual compatibility is a completely ridiculous argument to make in favor of premarital sex on every level.

    1) If the sex between you and someone you care deeply about is NOT GOOD does that mean you're simply going to drop them for that reason?
    2) Sexual compatibility for most couples cannot be established by sleeping together once, dozens or even hundreds of times. Many couples takes months and even years before the sex between them actually gets to the really good point.
     

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