What Percentage Of Mueller’s Summary Will Be Redacted By Barr

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What percentage of Mueller’s report do you think will be redacted? What would be acceptable to you? I would say at least 90% should be released to the public and that all of it should be released to those with security clearance in both the US Senate and House of Representatives. I hope that AG Barr acts ethically and makes everything that is not absolutely necessesary to have redacted available. Barr seems to be acting pretty squirrely lately with this color codes bull crap. My prediction is that he will try to block public access to anything that might be damaging to Trump and what is released to us will include over 40% blackout....I guess we will see soon. I hope I am wrong.
     
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    I'd accept 10%, maybe 15%, if it went over 20% I'd agree only if most of that was grand jury material, see if Mueller could revise those portions to omit that material.
     
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    It is a given that grand jury transcripts will not be released to the public. However, they, along with all 400+ pages should definitely be released to all Senate and House members with security clearance. I am talking about how much of the 400 page document including the summaries produced by the investigators will be released to us. I would hope that Barr does not turn over a bunch of multicolor redactions and a hundred or so unreadable pages to us, the citizens of the US. We are all adults and can draw our own conclusions based on what comes out. Barr is acting like the typical sleazy, evasive politician/lawyer. I guess we will find out on Friday or early next week.
     
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    Here's the reality: ANY CONGRESSMAN/WOMAN who, at a minimum, has the security clearances of Mueller and Barr should get the entire report unredacted!
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don’t worry about Mueller or Rosenstein making any kind of getaway. I would bet that Nadler has subpoenas in his back pocket for both of them and many others concerning the investigation. Even if Barr try’s to set up a smokescreen to prevent the information from being outed, it will all be revealed when the smoke clears. You guys have been dying to hear what these guys have to say for a year and a half.
     
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    I'm still eager to hear what Mueller has to say. Mueller for example discovered Strzok's texts. Mueller interviewed James Baker who alleged Rosenstein plotted to invoke the 25th amendment. Mueller couldn't have helped but stumble upon some serious conflicts, if not criminal misconduct by former FBI / DOJ personnel. Barr's aura of calm reservedness suggests he's sitting with a pat hand regarding Mueller's findings. Barr's lifting the smokescreen, not relying on one.
     
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    Ummmmm . . . why were leftists so very adamant that they should be trusted BEFORE the Mueller Report was finished and submitted?
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The place for all of these matters to be revealed is in OPEN Senate and House inquiries just like Watergate, Iran Contra and Whitewater. Bring all of them in and get to the bottom of it. Total transparency, I say.
     
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    No one can prevent the inevitable. Nadler thinks he can preoccupy voters and slow Barr's progress at the same time. IG Horowitz FISA report is due in June. The professional misconduct phase is almost over, and Horowitz has probably done a lot of Barr's leg work on the criminal aspect of the abuses. Impeachment evaporates if all your witnesses are indicted for perjury.
     
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    Here's another reality; legislators leak. There's a high degree of certainty anything provided to the legislature will become public, even if it is classified. Even if they are told not to divulge -they will. Grand jury materials, matters under ongoing investigation, the names and addresses of jurors, confidential informants, witnesses, their testimony to the grand jury, the names and addresses of FBI agents who participated in all matters investigated, their field notes, summaries and reports, descriptions of every item of evidence gathered, the texts of every document, phone conversation, email, text message and private correspondence, medical records, confidential communications between doctors, psychiatrists, counselors and patients, records and writings between attorneys and clients, attorney work product, private tax records, everything seized in every raid by the FBI, the transcript of every interrogation of each suspect, regardless of his ultimate disposition, and the views of every agent or attorney on the content thereof, will be leaked to advance partisan views. If the entire Mueller report and everything Mueller considered in drafting it is provided to Congress, even if only to some limited committee thereof, it will become a matter of public discussion and probably more than a few breathless news accounts and NYT 'bestsellers'.
     
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    The same reason you suddenly do trust them lol
     
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    Who cares? It was all a witch hunt so what could possibly be revealed that matters?
     
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    Who do I trust? Mueller and Rosenstein belong in prison.
     
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    Instead Barr is working with them? Maybe he needs to be in prison also? He’s got quite the deep state resume
     
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    Indeed, that's my impression too. I doubt Barr would come out and say of Mueller's report there's nothing there, knowing he was on the record stating he would make it public once he'd delivered it to Congress. I would also note Barr and Mueller are pals from way back, I think Barr knew of Mueller's report, his findings and conclusions long before he got appointed AG. In fact, that's probably why he got appointed.
     
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    I told you exactly why I trusted Barr. The second Barr was appointed, Mueller pulled up stakes and left everthing up to Barr's discretion. Mueller either employed, or interviewed everyone Barr's investigating. Mueller knew about Strzok's texts before anyone else did. What else did Mueller discover? Mueller is way to eager to move on.
     
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    Your opinion is noted.
     
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    I think Democrats just can't see the writing on the wall, by now it should be obvious (as Strzok said) "there no big there there", but Democrats insist there really is, that everyone raising an eyebrow is some deluded "deplorable". The rest of us note so many irregularities; those FISA warrants substantiated with that uncorroborated dossier, Halpern and Mifsud's backgrounds and credentials, Fusion GPS' role in the Trump Tower setup, the nature of Manafort's documented work for Yanukovych, the dubiously lawful wiretaps, abusive searches and seizures, tendentious texts among investigators, documented partisan views among Mueller's legal team, coordination with McCabe on that "insurance policy"... There's so much irregularity in the effort to oust Trump a rational person can see this just won't work. Democrats expect Mueller's report will finally kill the beast, but it won't. They'll keep trying -to their detriment.
     
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    I doubt the Mueller report will "kill" anyone. However it might provide a gateway to hell for Trump. I loaded up on popcorn and diet coke.
     
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    I think the Senate and the House should also investigate any abuses by federal agents also. They should have all of the information available and have open and transparent hearings with all witnesses pertinent to these matters. Bring it all out into the open. If there are prosecutable crimes, so be it. Nadler, Schiff, Graham and any of those in committees should have ALL information available. Grand jury testimony, affidavits which were used to get search warrants, phone taps and everything else regarding the Russian meddling investigation. Everything should be exposed in open hearings.
     
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    Stay away from the Diet Coke. It’s laced with neurotoxins.
     

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