What say you Amercano's?

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  1. Beer w/Straw

    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    Now, it doesn't mention global warming much --that is the quiver-in-anticipation love button-- but should it also be America First before nature?

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/29/health/wwf-wildlife-population-report-intl/index.html

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    This is the greatest nation on Earth and does just fine with the environment even with the EVIL Trump and deplorable GOPers in charge. So send your message to hyper polluting China and Russia. Oh right . . . they would tell fanatical tree huggers to get stuffed.
     
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    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    OK.

    But how much of this could be conspiracy for whatever?
     
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    What . . . are you talking about? Aside from honey bees dying off no matter what scientists try in the developed West, the Western nations are doing a pretty good job regarding the environment in general.
     
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    How do they know "Global wildlife populations have fallen by 60% in just over four decades"?

    They said polar bears were going to be extinct, instead there are more than before.
    They say a new species is discovered every other day in the Amazon.
    In 2016, around the world, 18,000 new species were discovered.
    This year more than 100 new species were found in the ocean.

    Sounds like more "chicken little" wailing from the environmentalists.
     
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    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    Some people think that global climate change is a conspiracy that NASA is in on to make money, so I guess I wanted to see if the CNN statement gets the same vibe: "This is the 'last generation' that can save nature, WWF says".
     
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    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Maybe they are mistaken.
     
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    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    Well, I found this:
    Bold mine. https://weather.com/science/nature/news/top-10-new-species-photos


    http://wwf.panda.org/our_work/biodiversity/biodiversity/
    https://news.nationalgeographic.com...cience-animals-species-endangered-extinction/

    Who, NASA, WWF or both?
     
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    Even I don't think that!! :mrgreen:
     
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    Every year they discover 1,000's more species. That means they have no idea how many species there are, and that means they cannot make statements such as 60% of animals are declining.

    So when they make such statements, its nothing but propaganda.
     
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    Yeah, I don't know how CNN came up with that figure; the WWF ideas seem a bit more cautious:


    Just to illustrate the degree of biodiversity loss we're facing, let’s take you through one scientific analysis...
    • The rapid loss of species we are seeing today is estimated by experts to be between 1,000 and 10,000 times higher than the natural extinction rate.*
    • These experts calculate that between 0.01 and 0.1% of all species will become extinct each year.
    • If the low estimate of the number of species out there is true - i.e. that there are around 2 million different species on our planet** - then that means between 200 and 2,000 extinctions occur every year.
    • But if the upper estimate of species numbers is true - that there are 100 million different species co-existing with us on our planet - then between 10,000 and 100,000 species are becoming extinct each year.
    *Experts actually call this natural extinction rate the background extinction rate. This simply means the rate of species extinctions that would occur if we humans were not around.

    ** Between 1.4 and 1.8 million species have already been scientifically identified.
     
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    I do feral cat outreach.

    We try to trap them and get them neutered/spayed and then watch them for a couple of days while they recover and finally release them back to their stomping grounds.

    And my own cat is a feral rescue.
     
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    Evolution of the fittest.
     
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    The natural progression of events will be that before long there will be little to no wildlife on earth.

    The large mammals are being killed off in Africa to make room for development just as everywhere else. The Amazon basin will become the Amazon industrial river valley.

    Eventually there will be only habitat for man and his commercial endeavors.

    There's no way around that. If ya hungry ya gonna poach, too.
     
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    Beer w/Straw Well-Known Member

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    I bet you do.

     
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    Maybe nobody should take you at your word?
     

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