What should be subsidized besides health care?

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  1. kreo

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    The problem with analogy is that no society can offer private health care.
    Health care is no different then interstate roads, it is a system where government funds are required.
     
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    You have Medicare the insurance that I am currently paying for.
    I do not have Medicare because you are against it, for no valid reason.
     
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    A nurse is like an interstate road? How so?
     
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    Required so you don't have to pay?
     
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    Giggles
     
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    C'mon. "Solving simple poverty". Everyone know what that means. It's an iron-clad argument.
     
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    Taking the property of others. Not cool. Kind of like robbery.
     
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    Did someone steal from you? That’s unfortunate for you.
     
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    It's completely obvious that the answer is no. But I've been told that mods are trying to stop the onslaught of strawman arguments on this forum. And you are a walking talking strawman factory. My policy has been not to do reporting. However, I'm thinking of changing that. Just all of your posts would have to be deleted if I did. Hmmmm.... It's nothing personal, but I do believe that strawman arguments like the ones you so frequently (almost exclusively) spew hurt so much the attempts of serious people to engage in serious debates, that it would be worth the while to get rid of all the nonsense.
     
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    Do you oppose some people taking the property of others?
     
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    So anything that society deems necessary to ensure social cohesion is moral? Is that still your position?
     
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    I oppose anyone stealing from people. There’s a reason why it’s against the law to steal.
     
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    Given the exact same question under the exact same circumstances, every rational human being should answer in the same way when the answer is focused on the object (objective), and not on personal preferences or personal conditions of the subject answering (subjective).
     
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    That's not what I asked. I asked whether or not you oppose some people taking the property of others. So?
     
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    So which human being gets to determine whether an action promotes the existence of the community of human beings?
     
  16. ECA

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    Again I oppose anyone taking (aka stealing) from anyone. Not sure why you’re having a hard time understanding that. You do know it’s against the law to steal, right?
     
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    Cool. So you oppose taxation.
     
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    thank you.
     
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    Dallas County, Texas has a worse problem and gun lovers refuse to muster and become necessary to the security of our free States and counties.
     
  21. ECA

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    All taxation? No.
    I mean, the streets aren’t going to plow themselves when it snows. If my house catches fire it’s not going to put itself out. If I get in a serious car accident I’m not going to be able to extricate myself and administer first aid to myself. My wife and I preferred our kids to have an education so it’s nice there were schools available where we live. You can claim all you like that you don’t think we should pay for these things but you’d be full of sh!t. You know it. I know it. We all know it.
     
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    gibberish; You don't have an iron clad argument.

    Taxation is a Power delegated to Congress to solve the problems of our Republic.

    any Problems, right wingers?
     
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    Health care premiums should not be subsidized by the Federal Government. It should be up to each State to offer insurance plans for low income individuals and families. Forming "group plans" with low deductibles and premiums and several choices that include pregnancy and newborn care and preventative care and a plan that does not cover these benefits many don't need. These plans will include so many insureds that the cost to insurance companies actuarial will go down.
     
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    Bingo!

    Going to war and killing people promotes the welfare of society?

    I hope this is a joke.

    Joke or not, it's definitely not serious



    No. It's not. What I get from Kant is simply the distinction between Moral and Ethics. And some other minor ideas, here and there.
     
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  25. Longshot

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    So you support some people taking the property of others? Is that what you're saying?
     

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