What specific policies of Adolf Hitler are "Right Wing" ?

This is something that seems to go unanswered. What policies from the National Socialist Party or Adolf Hitler were right wing?

 

What are some of the things you consider to be right wing?

 

This is going ot be one of those threads where right wing Americans create a definition of 'right wing' and 'left wing' that are so divorced from the context of 1930s Europe that they are effectively a fiction. Seen it all before, will no doubt see it all again.

 

using Christianity to try to maintain power

notice the Trump Bible photo op

 

some believe... make the masses angry at the infidels, and they will support your own evil

 

Wrong question

The question should be - what policies of Hitlers are reflected in the actions of the current right wing

 

So like 6 post in and not a single policy has been pointed out.

 

Outlawing homosexuality. Outlawing labor unions. Outlawing Communism. Outlawing feminism. And, just a note, they abandoned anything "socialist" about the party after Hitler took over, kicked the socialists out of the party, and outlawed the remaining socialist party.

 

Banned and murdered any Nazis that had any sort of socialist leanings.

ONLY Germans were allowed to join the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe and SS.

Homosexuality banned.

Close cooperation with large capitalist industries.

Massive military buildup.

Immigration banned.

 

The Soviets did that also. Does that mean they were "Right Wing"?

And the Democrats were just as hard if not harder than the Republicans are. Or have you forgotten HUAC and the Blacklists?

 

They used any religion they could, even though most of the leadership was actually atheist or pagan.

Something the Soviets did also.

 

And this is unusual in what way, exactly? Most nations did not allow foreigners to serve in their military, the US is actually rather unusual in that it does freely allow foreigners to serve in their military.

Hell, not only are foreigners not allowed to serve in the Chinese military today, they have granted only around 20,000 people citizenship since 1949 (that is under 300 a year since it was founded). And almost all of those accepted were of Chinese ethnicity. And the President that passed the largest legal amnesty in the history of the US was President Reagan. I guess that makes him a flaming liberal.

So that is a really bad example. Unless you claim the PRC is "Right Wing", and has been since it was founded.

Once again, it was illegal in the Soviet Union, and in China to this day. Were/are they "right wing"?

Same is true with Sweden, Denmark, France, and a great many other countries. So that is also a failure unless all of them are "Right Wing".

OK, so that now expands it to the Soviets, China, North Korea, Iraq, Iran, I can just go on and on and on here. Once again, completely false.

It is almost totally banned in China also. As well as Japan. Also add Switzerland, Denmark, Mexico, Poland, Finland, Hungary, I can just go on and on and on.

All you are doing is making things up in essence. And they are all complete and utter failures.

 

The key difference between the rightwing and Nazism is that one believes in limited power of the government and the other believed in unlimited power.

The right wing believes in the the concept of individual rights . Nazism did not.

The rightwing believe in the voice of the people and control of destiny through the people by diffusing power from a powerful federal entity to the states on issues not specified in the constitution. Nazism overlords across regions, localities and individuals .

What happened in Germany couldn't happen under rightwing principles. But can happen under leftwing structure.

 

the cult of Trump proves what happened in Germany could happen here

 

You actually have said nothing but an unintelligible statement. Instead of hateful name calling or nonsensical labeling ...try a real argument.

 

1) We were talking about which POLICIES were right wing. Yes, the Soviets outlawing homosexuality is definitely what I would consider a right wing POLICY, since it is based on social conservativism. Left wing dictatorships can have right wing policies.

2) I don't agree with your assumption that Democrat=liberal=left throughout all of history, just as Republican=conservative=right wasn't always the case throughout history.

 

While the right wing likes to sometimes LARP as being libertarian, this makes no sense. There are plenty of ways that the right wing tries to expand the power of the government and individual liberty and local autonomy. This entire argument is based on the whole "what if we pretend that the right wing is libertarian?" fantasy, which I don't personally fall for. I've had far more right wingers attack my libertarian values than I have had left wingers.

 

most people see it, you may not, many in Germany did not at the time either....

 

Here is the thing, I do not care what you believe. You are trying to throw stones in a historical context based entirely upon your own personal prejudices. And that is always a failure.

This is why you can't make a consistent claim, because it is only your own prejudices that are being displayed here, nothing factual at all.

Tell me, exactly what nations in 1938 allowed free and open practice of homosexuality? Because once again, it was illegal damned near everywhere at the time. And still illegal in "Socialist" nations like China.

And funny, you seem to forgive it under the Soviets, but not everywhere. Hmmmm.

And as I said, I do not care if you agree with me or not. I am not stating my own opinions, I am making comparisons between Germany of that era and other countries. What you agree with or believe is completely irrelevant to the facts as I am pointing them out. And I find it fascinating that you are most upset with the fact that the Democrats for decades were harder against Communists than Republicans were. And that you seem particularly upset with my mentioning HUAC.

Or maybe you just don't like that I busted all of your attempts to cherry pick history and make it conform to your fantasies than reality.

 

That is a copout, and you know it is a copout.

Care to try with something of substance?

 

look at the cult members actions on Jan6

Trump is no Hitler, he does not have a big enough cult to ever become a Hitler and he is too old - but I do see similarities and shows it COULD happen here someday, just not with Trump

 

This can be said of both sides, from certain points of view. Hell, "Cancel Culture" is largely the barking dog of "Liberals", and I can't think of a single larger silencing of individual liberty than that.

No, once again you are ranting about your own beliefs and prejudices, and bringing up nothing of substance. You are only going on about your beliefs.

 

If you can't understand that outlawing homosexuality is socially conservative, then all you are doing here is describing your own prejudices and projecting them onto others.

How does your question change the fact that outlawing homosexuality is a socially conservative position?

That's outright untruthful. I haven't "forgiven" any such thing, nor do I understand the prejudice required to make something like that up.

Then I encourage you to read both the OP and my posts before "responding." You aren't making any sense.

More projection.

 

As I said, all you are doing is ranting about your own personal beliefs and prejudices.

In case you are brain dead, this discussion is about NSDAP Germany. It is not about your obsession with a former President that is so strong that you have this compulsion to bring him into almost everything.

That is your problem, you have an unhealthy obsession with somebody that I largely relegated to the ash heap of history the moment he stepped out of office. Yet here you are, dragging him into a discussion about things over 80 years ago.

And it's even more funny, as the former President was never a "Conservative" or "Right Wing". He was a lifelong Liberal and Democrat. That is what I am really finding fascinating, because you are showing even more that you are only discussing your own beliefs, and nothing historical.

 

Once again, you are the one trying to twist history.

And no, it is not "Socially Conservative", as every single nation on the planet at one time did that. A great many still do to this day.

That is projecting, and you are only picking things that you believe makes things "Conservative" or "Right Wing". Tell me, how many nations allowed free and open practicing of homosexuality in that timeframe? Because otherwise, your claim completely falls apart as that makes it the social norm of the era, and nothing about one country in particular.

And when so many "Left Wing" countries still outlaw it to this day, then it is even more of a failure.

Stick to facts, and not your own prejudices and beliefs.