What to Know About the Shooting of Police Officers at a Protest in Dallas

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  1. dequ1

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    http://time.com/4397785/dallas-shooting-police-protest-snipers/

    If the gun-men (man) was in sniper hiding, what kind of sniper machine did he (she) use? Was any information about distances, lines of shots, number of fires heard, loudness or quietness of shots, recorded in the statistics for the Dallas shooting records? What sort of fire arms were used? What sorts of scopes were recovered? If the news has said the sniper claimed bombs everywhere, would he be a veritable witness to his/her own sayings? How knowledgeable was he/she in his/her involvement? Where has the sniper machines been traced back to? If police officers were shot and no civilians were shot, were the police deliberately targeted and did the sniper have previous sniper machine shooting training to be 'more precise' than 'less precise?' How many shots did the a single police officer take before being .......put to the ground?? Were the shots single precision shots or accidental 'hits?' How were the snipers aware that a public protest was going to happen when the plan was planned only the night before? How did they locate sniper hide out spots and get their machinery ready so quickly? What do we actually know about the shooting?
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    This is old news covered on other threads.
     
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    dequ1 New Member

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    and what do we know about these sorts of things???

    s1.jpg s2.gif

    What is that drawn picture next to the door in the above cartoon, all about?? s2.jpg
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sks maybe a folding stock on it more likely a 30 round mag 7.62X 39 same as the ak 47 round dont know about a scope [​IMG] i have the same rifle mines a yugo sks
    with a scope 4 x good accurate rifle better then the ak at a 100 yards

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ler-micah-johnson-police-supporters-whoa.html
     
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    dequ1 New Member

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    you think this is the machine they used?

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    personally, i don't think they would use this..

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    the whole sex thing between adults is totally up to the individual adults, but for me, to see things in children's cartoons that may put unwanted things into their minds, is a bit oppressive. I know that when I was a kid, I was a little 'whore monger' but not all kids are like that and to assume that every kid is is just wrong.
     
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    dequ1 New Member

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    Here is an example of how adults should have the right to be able to choose what they want and what they don't want to do.....

    View attachment 44340

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    what they choose to do with their OWN time and space, is none of my concern. But please don't make me sit in class and watch if I don't want to.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the ar 15 have less penetration on a police bullet proof Kevlar vest 223/5.56 round hyper could deflect , he made a good choice the 7.62 x 39 is slower and 30 cal bigger will punch a bigger hole exiting the first part of the vest thus a one shot kill the 223/5.56 ar 15 would be more of a wound
    check out the sks penetration test here go to video time 5:30 [video=youtube;67MdmjzHAak]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67MdmjzHAak[/video]
     
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    dequ1 New Member

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    would you know who manufactures this ?
     
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    dequ1 New Member

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    SKS

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SKS

    The SKS is a Soviet semi-automatic carbine chambered for the 7.62×39mm round, designed in 1943 by Sergei Gavrilovich Simonov. Its complete designation, SKS-45, is an initialism for Samozaryadnyj Karabin sistemy Simonova, 1945 (Russian: Самозарядный карабин системы Симонова, 1945; Self-loading Carbine of (the) Simonov system, 1945). In the early 1950s, the Soviets took the SKS carbine out of front-line service and replaced it with the AK-47; however, the SKS remained in second-line service for decades. It is still used as a ceremonial firearm today. The SKS was widely exported, and was also produced by some former Eastern Bloc nations as well as China, where it was designated the "Type 56 Carbine", East Germany as the Karabiner S and in North Korea as the "Type 63".
     
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    Cops know why ambush of cops is up 44% this year:

    "The best thing that could happen for the United States of America is January 20, when President Obama leaves the White House for the last time..."

    Sheriff David Clarke Blasts Obama for Dallas Police Massacre
     
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    Are all sks rifles semi-automatic? Do snipers prefer semi-automatics or single shots?
     
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    Micah Johnson learned tactics at Texas self-defense school...
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    Dallas gunman learned tactics at Texas self-defense school
    Jul. 9, 2016 — The gunman who killed five police officers at a protest march received training from a private self-defense school in Texas, a school official said Saturday at the academy that teaches firearm tactics, including "shooting on the move," a maneuver in which an attacker fires and changes position before firing again.
    See also:

    Dallas shooting: High alert over 'new security threat'
    Sun, 10 Jul 2016 - Dallas police heighten security at their headquarters after receiving an anonymous threat, two days after five officers were killed in the city.
     
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    dequ1 New Member

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    and what is the efficiency between factory semi automatics and factory single shots upon single target hits?
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    single shot 308 Remington 700 but you want this rifle to really be snappy with quicker shots and a real one shot kill at longer range Russian Dragunov
    [video=youtube;egQJiwwmrIw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egQJiwwmrIw[/video]
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    shoots a large round 7.62×54mmR rim fire on the left the ak sks is in the middle [​IMG]
     
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    Typically a semi auto is less efficient as some of the charge is bled off to cycle the action.
    Asking some weird questions that anyone with a computer could answer themselves. Care to tell us why?
     
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    Who knows what goes on in the mind of a deranged person?...
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    Nation outraged after Dallas shooter identified as U.S. Army reservist
    Saturday 9th July, 2016. – The gunman responsible for the death of five police officers during an ambush in Dallas has reportedly been identified as Micah Johnson, 25 years of age and a U.S. Army reservist who served in Afghanistan but was sent back after being accused of sexually harassing a fellow soldier.
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    Dallas suspect was sent home from Afghanistan
    Sunday 10th July, 2016 - The Dallas sniper had been sent home from Afghanistan after being accused of sexually harassing a female, and was described as a loner who followed black militant groups on social media.
     
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    alright... has the casings been found and collected? should there even be any casings? So, even with casings there is no sure verification of machine used? Secondly, if only 1 suspect has been confined, would the other two have used the same machinery for their choice? Thirdly, has any other casings been found in other locations around the area?
     
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    has the estimated number of shots heard been validated? Multiple rapid fire shots? Were there any lag time connections? 2 seconds before a shot? 3 seconds,,, etcc... or were they in random succession? What was the total number of minutes that the snipers were actively shooting? How long after the last shot was heard did investigation start? How long would it be from the last shot fired to possible get away times?? Were the last shots less or equal to the amount of people involved in the shooting? 3 snipers would fire x amount of rounds, in the end, only y amount of rounds were heard. and even further down, only z amount of rounds were heard. Was this a collaboration, a planned get away? With one volunteering to be captured? Once again, how were 3 some what trained snipers aware that there was going to be a held 'protest' only in 1 day's notice if the protest was formed by local residents only the night previous?
     
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    supposedly there were 3 snipers. Were they all scattered or somehow in a strategic places for most efficient view of the people? How did they survey the local sniper spots for best access? Where were the sniper spots? In trees? In bushes? How far up in buildings? Which buildings were open at that hour of the night? How did they access the upper floors or even roofs? How did they get out of the buildings? How far would their 'runaway' vehicle have been? Would they even have used any 'runaway' vehicle? Could they have found a low-key place nearby to hide?
     
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    so supposedly this one person who's picture is posted on this was trained by local texas fire arms tactics. Was he/she asked about the person's association with the tactic training business? Does he have any information about his 'friends' he may have brought along? Did he introduce any of his friends as sign up potentials for these tactical classes? Could the trainer say he had passed or failed the classes...

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    surely then, the texas trainer would know many more people who signed up for tactical training..

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    the texas trainer may even know more about sniper activity and preferences of snipers if he was asked. He may even be able to tell what sort of machine was used and how it is used most efficiently.
     
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    and this whole 'shoot and move' tactics.... why would stationary snipers need to shoot and move?

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    shoot and move is better for field combat. Sniper shootings might be a completely different thing.

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    or the shoot and move could be used by SWAT like entries and defenses.

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    i can't understand how his 'shoot and move' training given by tactical professional could be used if 'snipering'. Doing so would be much less effective than remaining stationary.

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    the shoot and move tactics and training would come in handier when engaging with other live shooters in close proximities.

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    and thus semi-automatic rounds would be more suitable for the 'shoot and move' whereas single shot rounds would be more suitable for stationary .
     
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    please please remember that this information is obtained by what is already provided. Any reader of these news articles can come up with the same if not better questions.

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    when things don't line up, and if someone notices crooked things, it is noticeable. It's just like when you go home and you find a pair of shoes someplace where it ought not to be.. Or if a wife notices pillows in wrong formations on the bed. If it doesn't line up, then it's crooked.

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    am i sounding a little non-crooked now?

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    what spit and shine military officer WOULDN'T notice a spot on his shoes?

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    what was that? a half an inch for folds? An inch and a half for the top of the bed sheet to be folded over? ??? Military can be strict, huh?

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    do they still do 45 angles for attention, or has it changed to 50?

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    America and the American Military hold the American Flag up. Not the other way around.

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    Once they were busting drunk drivers. Now they're not sure who's drunk and who's not?

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    Once cars that had excessive smog coming out of the tail pipe were pulled over and cited. Now they roll by the police and wave hello.

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    All this in only a matter of several years. Not decades.

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    I just hope that bullets leaving any machines are used by proper authorities who know the difference between a righteous and a non-righteous enemy.
     
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    what is kind of unnerving is how media makes this sort of news hit the international headlines and when people want to know if justice is met, they get no answers. These sorts of stories end up 'fizzling' out of people's minds in the passing of time with no sure answers given. Why even make people worry if they are not given any reassurance to safety?

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    i guess it comes and goes as it pleases...
     

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