What Would MuhamMAD do?

It was a righteous statement to make sure his followers were not milk toast and scared.

You have no clue.

 

Muhammed was a Warmonger. doubt it not. .

 

Response: "If any man come to me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple" (Luke 14:26). It is statement full of hatred and discrimination as anyone can see.

 

Response: Only in the eyes of the delusional. Thanks for clarifying.

 

Such a beautiful verse indeed.

 

Look, our most fundementalist Christians haven't laid a finger on anyone. Even if I was an athiest, I'm better off living among hardcore Christians who annoy me than hardcore muslims who would kill me. As a woman I'd rather be in a Christian nation than a muslim one, if a man gets me pregnant (with or without my consent) I'd be killed in Sharia, and be able to sue him for child support in America. So please continue to show ignorance of the differences in religions.

 

The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina, and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men.
Ishaq:464

We are steadfast trusting Him. We have a Prophet by whom we will conquer all men.
Ishaq:471

Crushing the heads of the infidels and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy. Blood gushed from their deep wounds as the battle wore them down. We conquered bearing the Prophet’s fluttering war banner. Our cavalry was submerged in rising dust, and our spears quivered, but by us the Prophet gained victory.
Ishaq:578

can you read your own books? These are hadiths.

 

Response: The Sunnah is Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, not Ibn Ishaq, thus proving nothing.

 

Jackpot! this proof that Islam and their documents are all corrupt, Koran Hadith, Sunnah all in conflict with one another.

That is why the Mohammed tried several times to commit suicide because he was receiving all kinds of conflicting and corrupt messages.

 

Excellent rebuttal another proof that Muslims do not know how to read that resulted with them keep on insulting God's true Holy Reveal Book the Bible and at the same time corrupting the Bible.

Lev.14: 49-53- To clean the house from a plague, sprinkle the house with the blood of dead birds. = That is why Muslim have no respect for human rights.

Lev.12: 1-5- females are born double polluted than males. = that is why Muslim women are force to be like mummies cover up head to toe.

Luke 14:26- You must hate your family to be a disciple of Jesus. = "Kill them where ever you find them" do not make friends with Christians and Jews" that is how Muslim relate Luke 14:26

Ephes.5: 22-24- women must submit to their husbands. = That is why Muslim men throw acids on Muslim women faces.

Isaiah 7:20 God shaves with a high razor. = That is why Muslims love to decapitate innocent people.

2 Samuels 22:11- God rides on a cherub.( Animal with wings or a naked female with wings). = that is why Muslims truly believe that Mohammed have a flying horse!!!

Listen to God, READ, READ!!

 

Witchcraft and lies. that's all it is.

Notice how they deflect and say "you've proved nothing" but you can point it out in their own books and they still say "you've proof nothing"...In my psychology studies in college this was called using "selective memory" and discounting facts to deflect from the truth.

Muslims call it Taqqiyah, or lying, in English.

 

Narrated by Abu Abs

(who is 'Abdur-Rahman bin Jabir) Allah's Apostle said," Anyone whose both feet get covered with dust in Allah's Cause will not be touched by the (Hell) fire."

Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57 :
Narrated by 'Ikrima

Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to 'Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn 'Abbas who said, "If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah's Apostle forbade it, saying, 'Do not punish anybody with Allah's punishment (fire).' I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah's Apostle, 'Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'"

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 362 :
Narrated by Ibn Umar

Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again) . He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of 'Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina.

Are we going to play this game?

How many people did Peter kill for Jesus? or Paul? Zero.

 

That is why Muslims hate Christians and Jews and they wrote it in their Koran "not to befriend Christians and Jews" because Christian and Jews are smarter than them, Christians and Jews can see through their lies and distortion.

 

Response: And exactly what is the purpose of your post. No where is it stated that Muhmmad started any unjust wars according to your own quoted text, specifically in one which states that the treaty was broken by non-muslims. Thus you've done nothing but prove my point.

As for Jesus, he was a messenger and never assigned by Allah to be a ruler over humankind, but to give law to the Israelites. Thus stating that no one ever kiled for Jesus is foolish because Jesus was never an apointed ruler. Had he ben appointed so, he would have done so. Jesus himself says in the Bible:

"But those mine enemies whoichwould not that I should reign over them, bring hither and slay them before me" Luke 19:27. Debunked as usual.

 

It's amusing to see liars and con men (Christians, Jews, muslims) calling other liars and con men (Christians, Jews, muslims) fakes.

 

That is normal this way the real truth can be reveal and so far Muslims have failed miserably to provide any truth and substance to all their wild claims.

 

All religous claims involving gods, angels, demons, devils, spirits, ghosts, zombies, resurrections and reincarnations are nutty.

 

The point is that any "hadith" we talk about is filled with violence and death. That's what it is -- and I think it's unfair that you keep trying to pull the same fast one and pretend that there is no violence in the founding of Islam. It's not true, and you aren't convincing anyone. As to the purpose of the religion -- who says that the founder must conquer a city and take a throne? If Muhammad was really right, he could have done exactly as Jesus did -- simply convert the heathen by words.

 

Mohammed did convert the first two people by words. The first one was his wife and the second one was a black slave.

 

Quite so, but you'll have a tough time driving that point home to Wanren + his fellow bigots.

From all accounts he did as you've said. There's no record of Mohamed ever advocating violence except in self-defense.


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Do you know any Muslims, Wan Ren or do you just read hate stuff?

 

Is that so, ? now have you ever read the Bible and did you noticed how much violence and death is in the "holy " book . ? Are you aware that the worse of humankind's violent atrocities occurred , NOT amongst Muslim but within Christendom ?



who says that the founder must conquer a city and take a throne? If Muhammad was really right, he could have done exactly as Jesus did -- simply convert the heathen by words

First of all , if Mohamed was like Jesus he'd also been nailed to a cross + his followers fed to lions etc,.etc .

Go read your bible and learn what Yahweh/Elohim - Gawd - told the Hebrews to do to the Canaanites ,

This is from your bible : Your god turns an innocent women into a pillar of salt ??????

EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor.

LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children."
LE 26:29, DT 28:53, JE 19:9, EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends.

NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses.
NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command.


NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites.
NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until there was not one survivor left ...."

NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun ...."


NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly."

NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women and children.

NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.)


NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.
DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon.
DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og.

DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and shown "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat.

DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves."

DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes."


DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go.


First learn your own bible before fooking with others. (wink)


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Nah - Its unlikely that he'd ever met - had any sort of social contact with a muslim.

Some folk hate Whites who hate Blacks who Hate Jews , who hate Christians , who hate Muslims, who just hate people like Wanren , who's not happy unless they've got someone to hate.

WanRen reminds me of Rogers-Hammerstein Musical South Pacific which is again doing the rounds here in UK -

You've got to be taught to hate and fear
You've got to be taught from year to year
It's got to be drummed in your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught


You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made
And people whose skin is a different shade
You've got to be carefully taught

You've got to be taught before it's too late
Before you are six or seven or eight
To hate all the people your relatives hate
You've got to be carefully taught
You've got to be carefully taught

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Sad innit ? that out WanRen is incurrable .



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Response: To the contrary, it is rather any hadith that you insist on focusing on is violent. For there are chapters in the collection of authentic hadiths that deal with charity, compassion, etc. Yet you purposely make it your busines to isolate only the hadiths that speak of violence. Thus it is you who is fooling no one, and as demonstrated, every violent hadith never, ever states to fight those who make peace or t start a war. As the context proves, they relate to self-defense, as verse 9:13 of the Qur'an states that non-muslims attacked first, while verse 8:61 prohibits muslims to fight those who incline to peace. Debunked as usual.

 

That is what Mohammed would do aside from committing suicide it is also to distort what is reveal to him, peace in Islam means that all Christians, Jews and none Muslims have to submit "Islam" to Muslims and their religion failure or resistance will be met with force an act of self defence according to Mohammed and Muslims. That is why we Christians, Jews and none Muslims have chose not to submit and to fight for our freedom against Mohammed and Muslim's twisted logic.

In fact, that is why Islamic history as to how Islam spread has been agreed and acknowledge by well establish scholars that unlike Christianity it was spread by the sword.

No need to cherry pick Koranic verses or Hadith stories because they are all stand alone verses that clearly meant what it is written that is why we should never turn our backs on Muslims because they have this twisted understanding of what peace means.