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What's best for Earth?

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by bricklayer, Oct 12, 2019.

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've got to be kidding!
     
    yabberefugee, Nov 23, 2019
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Sure it is. Who needs polar ice caps, and who needs to actually LIVE in sub-tropical and tropical zones.

    Yes, I realise there's no politically possible way to do it. It would have to come about voluntarily, or via fiat (for the totalitarians).
     
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  3. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well just think what abortion has done.
     
    yabberefugee, Nov 23, 2019
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  4. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "My God supplies all my needs" Christian precept"
     
    yabberefugee, Nov 23, 2019
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    GrayMan Well-Known Member

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    Earth is just a step in an impossibly large universe.
     
    GrayMan, Nov 23, 2019
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Botanic Photosynthesis.
    Oceans and land
    Sequester carbon.

    Fostering algae will create fisheries.
    Not making estuaries into Landfill real estate would help that too.
     
    Moi621, Nov 23, 2019
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    Longer growing seasons, more arable land, more precipitation, higher yields, lower mortality rates from the cold, .... it’s all good. Humans will adapt and develop new economically competitive energy sources as required. We have over 200 years before the global average temperature (if you believe we can actually measure that) increases by 3 deg C. The worst thing the US can do is cripple our economy and allow China to dominate the globe.
     
    AFM, Nov 23, 2019
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    Why does the human species continue to demonstrate an inability to cope with even minor weather changes without producing and utilizing specifically designed clothing to compensate for its physical shortcomings?
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And if the west does all that it will weaken economic growth resulting in the disparately larger growth of China and eventual domination of the global economy sueleed by power generation from coal. How does that accomplish the alarmists goal of reducing global CO2 emissions ??
     
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    The irony in the above is palpable. You have described the cultural and resultant technological evolution of the human race which allows us to populate and thrive in all parts of the earth regardless of local climate conditions.
     
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  11. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is called "adapting". The dinosaurs couldn't do it. Continue on.
     
    yabberefugee, Nov 23, 2019
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You said humans don't adapt then you go on to say this
    That is adapting. Please explain your logic.
     
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    I'm done with that battle, keep abortions I prefer it remains as is.

    The global population growth which is crazy high is generally in the developing and impoverished Nations if not the war-torn ones. So anything (that's not horrific) that would slow down global population growth I would be in favor of.

    what the earth really needs is some awful flu that kills 4 billion of us. but that would be horrific.
     
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    Jesus personally I feel that adapting is one thing that we're amazing at. Unless I'm missing some point the other poster wanted to make.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree. That is why I'm asking him/her to 'splain.
     
    yabberefugee, Nov 23, 2019
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    Why would any rational person want to reduce the global population by 4 billion people ???
     
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    earth wants that, not most rational people.
     
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    I think human well being that is derived by seeing the earth as something to provide value to humans falls well short of well being. Our sense of value is nothing more than an abstraction that allows us to change from survival in one way to survival in another way. I don't advocate going back to a hunter/gatherer society, but I think if we don't acknowledge that the earth's resources are not unlimited, we doom ourselves. Use it, but don't abuse it, as the cliche says.
     
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    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    Why would you want to have a high population?

    ↑Bricklayer--
    I don't understand why you want humans to multiply. What good comes of that?
     
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    Study more!
     
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    The earth told you what it wants ???
     
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    What people want is for the standard of living for themselves and their descendants to improve.
     
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    No response to my question ??? Why is handing over world domination to China a sound policy ???
     
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    yes, we text all the time.
     
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    All righty then.
     
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